On the ruger do you guys use the rings that come with them
Absolutely. Why pay more for a hunting rifle when the Ruger rings come with the rifle and work fine?
Here's my old (1982) M77 7mm RM, 10 shots in a very gusty 40+ MPH crosswind (radio said gusts were hitting 60+):
1989 Ruger M77 .257 Roberts:
2003 Ruger MKII .30WM, first shot from an oiled bore:
1984 Ruger M77 .30-06, 2-shot scope check:
1994 Ruger semi-custom (2010) MKII .338WM, factory barrel and rings, 3 shots:
19913 Ruger #1 .280 Rem, two different loads:
No target pics for my MKII .223 but it routinely shoots .5" groups at 100 yards and i use it to shoot clay pigeons at 500 and 600 yards. (At 600 I miss most of the time but rarely by much unless the wind is kicking up.)