Originally Posted by Savage_99
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
I don't particularly have an issue with a true 2moa rifle for big game out to 500 or even pushing 600 yards. But My version of sub MOA, must be vastly different than most. I have used and seen quite a few really shot and have not seen a true sub MOA factory Montana bigger than 6mm. Even guys who swore that theirs was, right up until it came tme to shoot. Then there is all manner of excuses as to why it's not.

Have seen some that were 1-1.5 MOA and a bunch that were 1.5-2moa which is fine.


Just a 'group' is not enough.

One to 1.5 moa is not enough for an accurate big game hunting rifle.

My first shot gets it done. The first shot at big game is by far the most important.

That the rifle stay sighted in is most important. Follow up shots want to be on as well but 'groups' are less important than hitting the game and not missing it with a 'group'!

I keep records that my hunting rifles stay sighted in. The Kimbers do very very well


You say some weird schit. The accuracy of the rifle is different from the staying zeroed ability of the optic......