17 Remington in an old BDL here. I use 20gr Vmaxes and 25gr Hornady HPs over CFE 223. Accuracy is superb and I have zero fouling issues. I have some old Barnes Original 25gr SPs that I want to stunt shoot a deer with sometime. Know a couple brothers that live down around Kodiak that are 17 fanatics. They've shot many foxes and blacktails with both the 17Rem and the FB. The prefer the 25 Hornady and the plain vanilla 17rem.