Thanks for the advice Gary, I did strip the Redhawk down last night and thoroughly clean every part then I polished with Flitz as well as I could every contact point I then lubricated with Rem oil and reassembled, I then dry fired the Revolver in single action 400 times followed by 200 times in double action, after this I retested the trigger pull with My Lyman guage and it had improved from a 8.5lb single action trigger pull to a 6.75lb single action trigger pull that has very little creep ( but it still has creep)......an improvement but still not quite what im looking for..........Hb