OTOH I don't understand people struggling so much with the 7 Rem Mag. I have never owned one that would not give 3050 with a 160 gr bullet and 3200 with a 140. 150's sail out at about 3150 with JOC's old H4831loads.

Of course some are stubborn but they tend to be factory rifles with so-so barrels.

They also tend to shoot very well for me.

depsite all the back there is absolutely nothing i could killed with a Mashburn or a Weatherby that i could not kill as thoroughly or as far away with a properly loaded 7 Rem mag.

Sometimes we rifle looies worry about absolutely nothing at all. smile



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Geez......pulled one cry



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160 Bitterroot at 3090 fps . 6x6 bull elk. 7Rem mag. Neck smashed.


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140 BBC and AB recovered from mule deer and black bear (DRT) started at 3200 fps from a 7 Rem mag.


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Nuff said. We sure know how to complicate things on here.... wink smile


me included...

Last edited by BobinNH; 05/15/16.



The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.