OTOH I don't understand people struggling so much with the 7 Rem Mag. I have never owned one that would not give 3050 with a 160 gr bullet and 3200 with a 140. 150's sail out at about 3150 with JOC's old H4831loads.
Of course some are stubborn but they tend to be factory rifles with so-so barrels.
They also tend to shoot very well for me.
depsite all the back there is absolutely nothing i could killed with a Mashburn or a Weatherby that i could not kill as thoroughly or as far away with a properly loaded 7 Rem mag.
Sometimes we rifle looies worry about absolutely nothing at all.
Geez......pulled one
160 Bitterroot at 3090 fps . 6x6 bull elk. 7Rem mag. Neck smashed.
140 BBC and AB recovered from mule deer and black bear (DRT) started at 3200 fps from a 7 Rem mag.
Nuff said. We sure know how to complicate things on here....
me included...