The 170 fits in the standard-length magazine of my Model 70 Classic. It's a ways from the lands but still shoots well.

I haven't used the 150 Ballistic Tip but a good friend of mine has, the guy who goes by Shrapnel on the Campfire. He likes it a lot and has killed a bunch of game with it, including several elk.


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