Originally Posted by jimmyp
Originally Posted by Fischer
I'm pretty sure that everybody has owned or fired at least one 1911 variant. But I'm wondering, how many of you who are dismissive of the 4013 as a carry gun have actually handled or fired one???


no one is dismissive, there are just better choices currently.


This. I like the 3Gen S&Ws, quite a bit, as well as the 1911. However, if buying for the purposes stated, there are better choices.

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.