while watching "the hunting channel" i saw a national (as opposed to one of my local advertisers) tv commercial a couple hours ago hawking weatherby's at 399.00 in selected calibers. i'm sure it was for the vanguards, which i think are good rifles. i remember reading an article in a gun rag maybe 2 years ago which tested 5 different factory rifles (all in 30-06). i believe the author also shot 5-6 different factory loads. seems the article was "best factory rifles for under 500.00" or something along those lines. the vanguard shot the best groups, fwiw. while i have never owned a weatherby, i am sure one could get a vanguard in 30-06 and hunt all of n/a for the rest of his life. ymmv............