Ray Atkinson I'm a average northeast hunter with dreams of African hunting in the future.I aquired a Winchester model 70 .458 which is what I would like to use. This is partly based on articles from Jim Carmichel and his success with the cartridge.My question to you is with Hornadys and Winchesters new .458 ammo both stating velocities between 2,240 and 2,260 f.p.s for the 500 grain slug and with energy at 5,500 and 5,600 at the muzzle wouldn't you think this would be suffient for cape buffaloe? This is a large improvement over what used to be considered the top loads at 2,150. And if these new loads are not true, then why aren't these manufacturers held liable for what they print? I think proper bullet placement with that kind of power would stop anything. So if these new figures are true would you reconsider your stance on the .458
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