I was in high school when I bought my 264 in 1963, every one tried to convince me not to buy it saying it was to much gun for a 6'2" 180 lb kid but being the stubern guy I am I bought it and have never regretted it. I have never had a need for a range finder, I have been guessing and measuring distances sinse I got out of the Navy in Nov 1968. You see I am a Licensed Land Surveyor in the state of Washington. I have walked more miles and paced more distances over every terrain Washington has to offer. I have paced many half miles searching GLO section corners and be within 50 feet + or - in rugged mountians. Most people can't guess how far 100 yards is.