Seen the new boxes, haven't used them, imagine a bit of duck tape will take care of the closing challenge.

As for how they kill, I'll go off my own experiences and I've been using them since they came out as my main go to bullet for most all that move.

Big guns, lil guns they all shoot em well. They have very good BC's, I've hardly ever seen any stay in an animal (and that includes a tonnage of elk killed with them). So for me I could care less what the pics show as I've seen first hand how they'll handle their biz..

Dober


"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy