Pal, I see your point. Ive never been one to buy used guns. As a matter of fact, I dont really buy anything used. I like to be the one to put the first scratch or nick in the stock, as every single nick and scratch has a story behind it. The only used guns that I own were handed down to me by my grandfather. The point I was trying to make is this, Winchester is trying awfully hard to reintroduce many of their classic lever action rifles. And for the most part, they look pretty much like the originals did (that is if you overlook the safety). I really dont see why they cant do the same with some of their classic bolt guns. Is it really that hard to believe that someone wants to buy a "new" classic gun? I would much rather do that, than lay out the cash for a new in box pre-64 rifle. Anyways, variety is the spice of life, and as long as folks are exercising their 2nd amendment rights, I dont care whether they buy new or used.