I am agreeing on the speed- jello - kill thing. Think I will try some 200grain XTP. What I noticed from this thread- oh manners- HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone- was that results on heavier than 240 grain seem better?? How are the 200 to 185 grain on deer or hogs? I should say I am a double lung guy, not a shoulder shooter. Good thread, I hope it continues.

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