Originally Posted by cwh2

And I hope you continue to do that, because by all accounts the paradox is a great pack, and seems very interesting. I'd hate to see you afraid to talk about it here, because this is one of few forums that I read regularly. Your enthusiasm for the products you have created is well founded, and I would imagine it is difficult to direct people to another thread when they start asking questions.

To be clear, I want to draw a line between product and marketing here. As I said, every indication is that your product is excellent. When I see a product promoted a little too aggressively by its creators, it cheapens my view of the product, if that makes sense. Think Wiggys here - how many people have sworn never to buy a Wiggys bag without ever even seeing one due to the behavior of people associated with the company? I don't want to see that happen to SO or Paradox.



No worries, but thanks cwh2 for saving me the dime since I was signed up for the internet marketing school put on by the aforementioned manufacturer next week smile

I try to stay out of things, especially when they do not pertain to us. And honestly, I'm not a very good marketeer, however I do try to also dispel myths such as "lightest hunting pack in the world" when they are simply not true. Granted, perhaps I overstepped my bounds and got over involved in the conversation and for that I apologize. The KUIU may very well be a fantastic pack, I am not arguing that. What I am arguing is the lightest "fact". For comparisons sake lets take a Unaweep 6300 in Camo X33 with a Camo X33 Base Talon

Volume Paradox 7300 vs 6000 ?
Weight Paradox 3 lbs 7 ounces or less vs 3 lbs 9 or 10
Fabric Paradox - a mixture of 330 D Cordura XPAC forever waterproof and 500D Cordura vs 160 D Cordura

Which has better specifications ?

Granted, an Evo adds 5 to 8 ounces, but a Unaweep is still very capable. I think any manufacturer that claims the "lightest" or any other attribute that is easily measurable, does open themselves up to others injecting when it is not true. For instance, others could claim the Paradox is not the lightest , after all the Kifaru KU was lighter , and likewise, I could go bird hunting with a little cuben fiber sack thrown over my shoulder and call it a hunting pack ... but that is really pushing the limit. However, I could probably say the Paradox is the lightest pack currently available that can support a huge load and is designed to take years of abuse. That , IMO would be a fair statement.



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