I don't think asking the nay-sayers "how many moose have you shot with a .30-30" is a good way to win an argument. Its no different than " how many deer with a .223" or "how many elk with a .243" arguments that guys use on here. If you've been around guns enough you have pretty fair idea what to expect from a given cartridge/bullet combo on a given animal. I have killed a mature Bull Moose with a .30-30 and it worked just as I suspected. Adequate, but not dazzling. The .30-06 and .450 Marlin have been a lot more impressive for me on Moose. I feel the .30-30 is about right for whitetails in the woods.