Thanks T-zoner for putting your finger right on it and Steve Redgwell for giving a prime example of it. Conscious of it or not I think we all need to be part of this, the hunt ,the experiences shared and the camadrie of it all in the field. Techno geek articles leave me without the feeling of being there with the teller way to many times. We've all seen a few posts so well done about hunts we will never make, that we felt we were actually along on. Sheep hunts, bear hunts Mackay's 12 yo daughter doe deer hunts and Northern Dave's deer camp. These are the tales we relate too and can appreciate.. Magnum _Man