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Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose. (Unfortunately, this law is ambiguous and appears to be subject to interpretation with regard to restaurants with bars or other places licensed to serve alcohol which serve other purposes such as casinos and other places of entertainment. We have researched this issue including contacting the concealed weapons division of the Florida Department of Agriculture and have received this response. While this letter and its opinion are not authoritative, the general sense is that concealed weapons may be legally carried by a CWFL holder into a business that serves alcohol but not as a primary business, however a concealed weapons carrier should stay out of portions of that business where the service of alcohol is the primary function, i.e., the bar area of a restaurant.)

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Democrat Senator Ben Nelson just said in a press conference that there are likely ties to ISIS. Then he goes on to say that this shooting combined with the shooting of The Voice singer a few nights ago are indicators of something wrong with our country.

No chit Sherlock -- it's called Islam.



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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
Democrat Senator Ben Nelson just said in a press conference that there are likely ties to ISIS. Then he goes on to say that this shooting combined with the shooting of The Voice singer a few nights ago are indicators of something wrong with our country.

No chit Sherlock -- it's called Islam.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by MadMooner
3 hours.....for three hours he was able to kill freely.



He just wasn't very good at what he did, was he? shocked

Good Lord, if a good ol' country boy ever got motivated, it would really open some eyes.
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When will people learn to buy a weapon and learn to protect themselves? Queers or not someone should have been packing. Obama and his crew are at the moment trying to figure out how to spin this away from his Muslim Buddies. I wonder if Hillary answered the 3 am phone call from the White House this morning?

Don't know about Florida, but in Texas you can't pack heat in an establishment that derives more than 50% of its revenue from the sale of alcohol. So no carry in bars and clubs.


But the killer had a gun


Clearly the gun made him break the law.


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I'm waiting to see how the Muslim in the White House spins this


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Originally Posted by slumlord
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3 hours.....for three hours he was able to kill freely.



He just wasn't very good at what he did, was he? shocked

Good Lord, if a good ol' country boy ever got motivated, it would really open some eyes.
country boy lives in Home Owners Association now and is afraid to even pull the trigger on a rabbit eating momma's rose bushes.



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Originally Posted by bea175
I'm waiting to see how the Muslim in the White House spins this


Completely predictable. Guns and access to them, especially military high capacity, caused this.


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Originally Posted by FlaRick
I wonder if there could be a pattern here? Maybe somebody should look into it.

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
1972.04.14 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1973.01.19 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
1973.07.01 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
1973.07.18 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
1973.10.19 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
1973.10.29 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.11.25 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.11 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
1973.12.13 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.20 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
1973.12.22 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
1973.12.24 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1974.01.24 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
1974.04.01 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
1974.04.16 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1977.03.09 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
1980.07.22 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
1980.08.31 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1989.11.06 USA St. Louis, MO 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing 'dishonor' to their family by dating an 'infidel' African-American.
1990.01.31 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
1990.11.05 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1993.01.25 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
1993.02.26 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
1994.03.01 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
1997.03.23 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
1997.04.03 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
2000.03.17 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
2001.09.11 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
2001.09.11 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
2001.09.11 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
2002.03.19 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
2002.05.27 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
2002.07.04 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
2002.09.21 USA Atlanta, GA 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store.
2002.09.21 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
2002.09.23 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
2002.10.02 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
2002.10.03 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
2002.10.09 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
2002.10.11 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
2002.10.14 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
2002.10.22 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
2003.08.06 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
2004.04.15 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
2006.06.16 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
2006.06.25 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
2006.07.28 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2008.01.01 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
2008.07.06 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2009.02.12 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
2009.04.12 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
2009.06.01 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
2009.12.04 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
2010.04.14 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
2011.04.30 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
2011.09.11 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
2012.01.15 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
2012.11.12 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2013.02.07 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
2013.03.24 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
2013.04.15 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
2013.04.19 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
2013.08.04 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
2014.03.06 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
2014.04.27 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
2014.06.01 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
2014.06.25 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
2014.09.25 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
2014.12.18 USA Morganton, NC 1 0 A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter.
2015.07.16 USA Chattanooga, TN 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
These are only attacks in which fatalities occurred.


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Originally Posted by Steve
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I'm waiting to see how the Muslim in the White House spins this


Completely predictable. Guns and access to them, especially military high capacity, caused this.


Exactly. We'll be told how Islam is a religion of love and peace but that because of high capacity "military grade" gun 50 people are dead. I'm sure that he'll also blame the NRA for this.

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Originally Posted by justin10mm
You can't legally carry in a bar so this was, once again, a target rich gun free zone. And not all gays are anti gun, ever hear of the Pink Pistols?

I must say that some of the responses on this thread are disgusting. Fifty of our fellow citizens are dead at the hands of a terrorist and all you can say is "well at least they were gay"! Appalling! How do you ever expect them to warm up to a more conservative way of thinking if that is the prevailing attitude towards them?


Very well said.

Any loss of human life is a tragedy which is why it is such an abomination for our gov't to call this anything less that what it is; Islamic Terrorism leveled not merely against citizens of this great Republic but against our foundational principles.

Which, in the case of this guy practicing his religion (of peace) and buying weapons, are the very principles which allow his ilk to kill us so easily.

We need to recognize that freedom carries with it a price and it isn't cheap.

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Young, male muslim. Who could have seen that coming?

You don't have to go to Syria, Iraq, or Pakistan to get "radicalized" ... just attend the "right mosque" or frequent the "right web-sites" ... that's all it takes.

Or just read the Koran. It contains complete instructions on dealing with Kaffirs.


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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
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When will people learn to buy a weapon and learn to protect themselves? Queers or not someone should have been packing. Obama and his crew are at the moment trying to figure out how to spin this away from his Muslim Buddies. I wonder if Hillary answered the 3 am phone call from the White House this morning?

Don't know about Florida, but in Texas you can't pack heat in an establishment that derives more than 50% of its revenue from the sale of alcohol. So no carry in bars and clubs.


Wanna bet on the compliance rates among Texans and Floridians?

If this was a gay bar in Texas, the number of dead might not have been high enough to make local news.


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The CNN story theme is "worst mass shooting in our country's history". Not using "worst islamist terror attack since 9-11".

Almost like they have an agenda.


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When will Obama schedule a news conference and tell the world that America and his administration blames Muslim terrorists, and we will now seek out radicals and deport them, as well as not allowing any more inside our borders?

Any guesses?


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Originally Posted by FlaRick
The CNN story theme is "worst mass shooting in our country's history". Not using "worst islamist terror attack since 9-11".

Almost like they have an agenda.


I think the lies and denial by the media and gov. piss me off worse than the actual event.

They think we are all stupid.

In actuality, there's a pretty good number that ARE stupid. Hence Obama for two terms.


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I can't wait to see Trump's YouTube video of Obama and Hillary twisting themselves in knots over the next couple of months trying to call this anything BUT "Radical Islamic Terrorism". Everyone knows exactly what it is, but the Democrat Pres and nominee can't say the words they have been actively avoiding using for the last 8 yrs.


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Fat ass female N I G G E R senator already on the NEWS preaching for more gun control, banning AR's and ammo for them . Also stopping gun shows


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