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in some jurisdictions one has an expectation of not being recorded without their consent. Whether they are involved in something criminal or not. Unless a warrant for it has been issued by a judge.
therefor, in some places it's an issue in legal proceedings regardless of whether you or I or the Popo are doing the recording Your expectations don’t trump the law. This isn’t about the police conducting illegal surveillance. It’s about ordinary people who choose to record their interaction with others. They’re not required to get your consent, whether it’s a person audio recording you or a store using a CCTV recorder. Some may give the courtesy of notifying you you’re being recorded (as an additional theft deterrrent), but they’re not required to obtain your consent. Same reason you can’t stop someone from filming you in a public place, and a cop can’t stop you from filming him during a traffic stop. My expectations, where I live, are that the other party involved follows the law. Anyone I'm talking to on the phone must let me know I'm being recorded, therefor the message at the beginning of most business calls to a customer service dept. you may want to check out more info on where you live. Most places, when in public you are correct for the most part. Private conversations are different in some jurisdictions. And private conversations, as in the one between Lake and Dewitt, are what I've been discussing here. What happens in public is.........well.........public Just how it is here in Cali:. https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/california-recording-laws/California Recording Law Summary:
California’s principle recording law (Cal. Penal Code § 632.) stipulates that it is a two-party consent state. In California, it is a criminal offense to use any device to record communications, whether they’re wire, oral or electronic, without the consent of everyone taking part in the communication. This means that in California you are not legally allowed to record a conversation you are taking part in unless all parties are in agreement. However, there are a few exceptions such as:
Public conversations with no expectation of privacy
Within government proceedings that are open to the public
Recording certain crimes
California also has a wiretapping law (Cal. Penal Code § 632.) which can result in criminal prosecution for the unauthorized recording of a phone line (or other media). Here's a map of the US if you're interested. I'm not going to look up Canada as that's not under discussion here https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/You’re in a two-party consent state, which is not what we’re talking about. Arizona is single-party consent, so your argument doesn’t hold water.
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Gee, I guess the Republicans want to win.
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Gee, I guess the Republicans want to win. Another leftist- “ends justify means”
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Or, is this a ploy to rally the faithful around Kari?
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As damning as a in your face bribe is on tape; why is there no other reporting on this event??
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She better be careful. First attempt is usually the carrot. The second is a stick. Recording this conversation and 'leaking it' may well prove to pretty good life insurance for Kari. Just saying.... Epstien
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My question about the tape is; in regards to "dirty deeds done dirt cheap" who in their right mind is going to offer an illegal bribe on an unsecured or unencrypted line? In my very limited experience with sketchy shiet is it's done face to face, no witnesses, no paper trail. The rule of plausible deniability is in full effect.
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Timing. Timing is everything.
Why now?
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If you read the post you would realize he said this is too sensitive to say over the phone so apparently this was a face to face meeting not a phone call. It matters not what the law says about recording conversations, what matters is he said it and this reinforces what most of us think about how politics work in this country. “Back east” no doubt refers to Republican Party leadership. Could be one of several people or a group of people who thought this was a good idea.
Seven pages of comments and most of them discuss the legality of what Kari Lake did, not the sinister way politics are conducted.
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It sounded really really scripted on both sides.
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If you read the post you would realize he said this is too sensitive to say over the phone so apparently this was a face to face meeting not a phone call. You got it backwards 45. He said "too sensitive to say over the phone" BECAUSE they were on the phone.
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If it was a phone call Lake recorded it.
She was a dem you know
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If you read the post you would realize he said this is too sensitive to say over the phone so apparently this was a face to face meeting not a phone call. You got it backwards 45. He said "too sensitive to say over the phone" BECAUSE they were on the phone. Yes he did. But it was still a face to face meeting, was it not?
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It sounded really really scripted on both sides. It did, because in something like this, both parties suspect the other is recording. When in fact both parties are recording.  Plus the FBI, Military Intelligence and ChiComs were probably all tapped in, so there's probably at least five recordings out there.
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If it was a phone call Lake recorded it.
She was a dem you know but its all good now....in fact she should be vp....bob
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If it was a phone call Lake recorded it.
She was a dem you know but its all good now....in fact she should be vp....bob She can do a lot more good in the Senate.
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If it was a phone call Lake recorded it.
She was a dem you know but its all good now....in fact she should be vp....bob She can do a lot more good in the Senate. Miguel...it was sarcasm...lake supported obam and john kerry.....she goes whichever way the winds blow...bob
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If you read the post you would realize he said this is too sensitive to say over the phone so apparently this was a face to face meeting not a phone call. It matters not what the law says about recording conversations, what matters is he said it and this reinforces what most of us think about how politics work in this country. “Back east” no doubt refers to Republican Party leadership. Could be one of several people or a group of people who thought this was a good idea.
Seven pages of comments and most of them discuss the legality of what Kari Lake did, not the sinister way politics are conducted. This is where Im at with this. How in the holy hell are so many of you debating the legality of this? Who cares. What should matter to us all is how corrupt the establishment is and the lengths these evil bastards are going to, to keep Trump out of office. WTF fellas? Too many people with their heads up their asses for this problem to ever get fixed
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Pretty revealing about how our institutions are under the control of the organized banking and billionaire class.
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Pretty revealing about how our institutions are under the control of the organized banking and billionaire class. People naming the 'back east' people McConnell/LindseyG/etc.- they answer to a higher power, ^ ^ ^ , just like biden/bush/++++ did.
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