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Luke 16:19�31

Too many people get way overconcerned about our short lives here on earth. Lots don't even make it fifty years while others, such as my Dad, will last a hundred years or so.

Regardless of how long we are here on this planet, it does not even make a mark on what eternity will be. That's where Gods' plan comes in.

My dear wife of over fify years is now undergoing cancer treatments for the third time. I sure do not want to loose her but that decesion is for God to make. I and the rest of my family plus lots of friends and people we don't even know are praying for her. Perhaps the treatments she is taking now is a miracle straight from God. Time will tell.

To many people try to make a man out of God. That just does not work.

That's not the illustration. It was in the bio books circa the 60's. It had only about 5 steps beginning with some type of embryo IIRC, the last was modern man, and the one before was an ape. These were huge, presumptive steps, one to the other, the result of someone's imagination.

Gdv

Finite Man can not grasp the infinity of God.
Temporal Man can not grasp the eternity of God.
Impotent Man can not grasp the omnipotence of God.
Physical Man is not a template of spiritual God.
Man is less than God and can not equal God.

Quick question:
How many believe that "creation" was a one time event?

How many believe that "creation" is a continual and ongoing process?

"But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, we have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I should see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side [i.e., the spear wound that pierced his heart], I will not believe." - John XX, 24,25.

No, it wouldn't.

You've already scorned His greater invitation and provision to join Him for eternity.

I think this is the one you mean. It started with an ape, not an embryo.

One time event, as the science of physics is currently verifying.

(I know a couple of men who look like that one in the middle.....)

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Oh, but it would!!

Scorned wouldn't be a appropiate word or description,either. Doubting or questioning His power to grant or offer such would probably be fairer.

If creation was a one time event then how does the science of physics explain the creation of new stars and new galaxies in the universe?

All the matter/energy that the new stars are made from was created at the big bang instantaneously. Just as all the matter/energy that you used to build your house was created at the big bang. Isn't that called the law of conservation of matter and energy?

IOW, the distinction between creation and combination. Hydrogen and oxygen (e g) were created, then some of each was combined with some of the other to form water. Right?

Yep, energy cannot be created nor can it be destroyed. What's here is here, and will be forever.

Yep.

God to show up at my door and say 'Hey!' or something else concrete like that.

I believe we're many times more likely to have extraterrestrials have tea with Bigfoot and Nessie at Stonehenge before there is proof of God.

You are behind the times with respect to modern physics. All the evidence points to a point of creation before which nothing existed, not even space. So, apparently, both matter and energy (not to mention space itself) CAN be created ex nihilo, i.e., from nothing.

That is correct,everything came into being at a specific moment. Everything like space,matter,time,energy.

I got no problem with the big bang or Genesis 1:1.

Same,same.

Britt

If true Hawkeye, then would this mean that all living organisms are not a product of creation, but a product of some sort of re-combination of already existing matter and energy?