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Books are not for reading in the political game, they are for having something to talk about on TV - hell boy everybody knows that.

Their other function is to be a source on campaign funds that isn't regulated by McCain-Fiengold.

Have you ever ran for office in any capacity - give it a try and then criticize her efforts, cause its a way tougher game than cage fighting.

The States created the union and the federal government. The federal government was to be chained down by lawful restrictions as a dutiful servant for the benefit of the sovereign states, most importantly national defense and secondly to provide a lawful way for states to settle squabbles without resorting to regional mini-wars.

Lincoln at the end of the day viewed the national government as some sort of divine idol to be worshipped and preserved at all cost. Hardly a dutiful servant view of the national government. He broke the back of state's sovereignty, destroyed for all intents and purposes the 10th amendment, centralized power and made the federal government very nearly accountable to no one but themselves. ENDA will be passed in the near future and you can lay the blame for this obscene tyranny at the feet of Lincoln. Ten thousand examples can be sighted.

I cannot comprehend how Lincoln could have digested Madison in the Federalist papers and then have done what he did. No way.

"The States created the union and the federal government. The federal government was to be chained down by lawful restrictions as a dutiful servant for the benefit of the sovereign states, most importantly national defense and secondly to provide a lawful way for states to settle squabbles without resorting to regional mini-wars."

And then the states began to rely on the Federal goverment for more and more, making it more powerful and comprehensive.

I guess so...

Glad she is banking money on it too.

In my mind though...

Take your best shot, strike while the iron is hot. Turn every debate to the Constitution. Make the liberal/communists at every turn come up face to face with the documents. Invoke their principles night and day. Quote them, frame the debate in the context of these documents.

All the veterans here took an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. This is where we take our stand. It is the big picture.

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Here is a link to Federalist 45. An entire presidential campaign could be launched and run on this one chapter ALONE.

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa45.htm


This is not elitism.

And so this is why the federal government makes the federalist into heroes for school children TR, FDR, Lincoln it's first priority has always been to increase it power and to expand it's size and wealth. Not new and has never changed it's focus. Why not a widespread reading followed by a discussion of the Anti-Federalist papers? Perhaps they had a few insights of what would be the outcome and what this would evolve into.

This reminds me so much of the argument used against 'touchy feely' liberals two decades or so. They 'knew in their heart' what was true, whiles conservatives demolished their arguments with cold logic.

Now we have touchy feely conservatives? WYF?

This country was founded on the ideals of a government of laws, not men. I don't want politicians who do what they feel in their heart is right. I want politicians that follow the Constitution and the law!

YES!!!!! Somebody else who understands the REAL Federalists. The moderates of the day forced the Great Compromise on the Federalists that lead to the ambiguity of sovereignty between federal and state governments and ambiguity between the powers and separation of those powers between the three branches of the federal government. Only by reading and truly understanding the Anti-Federalists Papers can one really understand that the Federalists really wanted a strong consolidated central government.

Interesting. I'd venture the Constitution was largely written from the hearts of the Founding Fathers, and our current laws are written by special interests who have no heart. Another case of be careful what you wish for?

If she is a true conservative, shouldn't she be at home raising her kids?

...and wearing a burkha. TIC

Boy, Montana Marine you have stepped in it now. When I said that I was handed my head. Let me get my coffee before the fat hits the pan.

YES!!!!! Somebody else who understands the REAL Federalists. The moderates of the day forced the Great Compromise on the Federalists that lead to the ambiguity of sovereignty between federal and state governments and ambiguity between the powers and separation of those powers between the three branches of the federal government. Only by reading and truly understanding the Anti-Federalists Papers can one really understand that the Federalists really wanted a strong consolidated central government. [/quote]


Did you ever wonder why the southerns held Lincoln in such low esteem for so may decades in the face of all the federal propaganda to the contrary? I started wondering that issue many years ago, at first I thought it was over the slavery issue, My first inclination about the trouble with the widespread history is that it was not be presented fairly was the title in use during the war between the States, first off it was commonly called Mr. Lincoln's war This was the term in wide spread use, no such thing as a civil war at that time. Then I discovered Lincoln withdrawal of Habeas corpus. So much I learned that I was no longer a fan of the school days hero of Lincoln. Any even moderate search of these heroes of federalist history makes for a rapid vaporization of any and all good feelings towards these people.

Did you ever wonder why the southerns held Lincoln in such low esteem for so may decades in the face of all the federal propaganda to the contrary? I started wondering that issue many years ago, at first I thought it was over the slavery issue, My first inclination about the trouble with the widespread history is that it was not be presented fairly was the title in use during the war between the States, first off it was commonly called Mr. Lincoln's war This was the term in wide spread use, no such thing as a civil war at that time. Then I discovered Lincoln withdrawal of Habeas corpus. So much I learned that I was no longer a fan of the school days hero of Lincoln. Any even moderate search of these heroes of federalist history makes for a rapid vaporization of any and all good feelings towards these people.[/quote]

Yes I have. Once one gets beyond the PC history of Lincoln one discovers their isnothing heroic in Lincoln. A truly heroic Lincoln would have followed the Constitution and there never would have been a so-called Civil War.

And so the 14th amendment became the first big transfer of ownership in American after the Emancipation Proclamation. The emancipation Lincoln wrote freed no one, but did enslaved the slave to the federal government and the 14th enslaved us all for future courts. It also limited free speech. Lincoln did well for the Federalist.


A wonderful law school question, How many slaves did the emancipation proclamation free? The answer is a nice round number,zero.

I don't bother to read any of the self-serving tripe ghost written by politicians (or celebrities...if there's a difference), and am modestly surprised that anyone takes Palin's, or any other politician's, book seriously. Like all politicians, Palin is simply pandering to her constituency, and will parrot (or more accurately, her ghost writer and publisher will parrot) whatever platitudes they believe necessary to sell Palin's book. Nothing more nor less.

DITTOS +1,000

a good concertive mom [she bear] will look after her kids now and in the future .she sees things she dont like ,shes going to do something about it .

The Liberals fear/hate her, all I need to know at this time.

I agree with RickyD when he said this. "I'd venture the Constitution was largely written from the hearts of the Founding Fathers, and our current laws are written by special interests who have no heart."

They are heartless. They're led by darkness. They mean to do harm. They've proven themselves malicious in the extreme. The founding fathers (most of them anyway) proved the exact opposite.

Personally, I want politicians who follow the Constitution and the law because that's what is in their hearts to do. Being led by the heart to lead the nation back to the constitution, back to its roots and back to sanity. And the liberals with their continuous barrage of BS be damned.