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Someone here posted a pic of a cow elk they shot with 223. So they will work...
Dink I have personally killed two bulls, both six points, with a .223.... But both were previously wounded by someone else, and going no where fast... the .223 is what i had with me...
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Ingwe I have no doubt they work. Matter of fact yesterday I bought Sako A1 in 223. I don't know yet what I am going to kill with it but I really want to take it to Montana deer hunting this fall... I guess I better wait and see how it shoots first though. Dink
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The last cow (bovine) I shot was with a 223 and 40 grain v-maxes, from about a foot from her noggin. It was all I had with me at the time. Believe it or not, she did more thrashing and took longer to expire than the ones I've shot with a 22 Long Rifle. Definately want to stay away from the 22 magnum, though. The last time I shot a cow between the eyes with one, it blew her whole ass end off!
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Definately want to stay away from the 22 magnum, though. The last time I shot a cow between the eyes with one, it blew her whole ass end off! I think I almost peed myself!
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Based on how the old 55 FMJs have worked on moose, I'd take the superior Barnes spitzer solids and plant one in the noggin.
But you're right, a great many people seem to use accuracy as the ultimate criteria when choosing a bullet or load. The Barnes monos are a good example. Typically the old ones worked better terminally than do the newer grooved versions, at least in my experience. However, many folks shrugged them off due to accuracy issues they thought they were having. The newer versions shoot very well and easily for the most part. Terminal performance has not been improved and may even have gone backwards if in a more consistent manner. Many folks now love them. Potential accuracy rules.
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Klik I am not an X user, so know little about them....but I am getting correspondence from a chap from DownUnder who is really cranking 150's from a 300 Weatherby,and had some recovered from medium and from Sambar.... FWIW,man those TTSX are a different animal from the one's I see not driven as fast...they are opened up like flower blossoms when started at 3500 fps or so...they really seem to be a real High Velocity bullet...
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DANG!....and I thought you'd post a good Blue Dot Elk load....... Sorry I left that out.. must have been on cruise control.. 12.5 grains of Blue Dot, SR primer, 53 grain Barnes X... that is if you are out of SR 4759,.. if you aren't the charge with that powder would be 17.5 grains with that bullet then...
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I need advice on a good bullet for elk My guide said it's a good caliber. he prefers someone with a 223 that can shoot it than a monster 30-06 that they can't shoot. My 30-06 can only shoot 1.5 in groups, while my 223 can shoot 1/4" groups, so he suggested I bring the 223. because accuracy kills better than caliber. ASSUMING the whole threads not a BAD JOKE! "use the 30-06 that can only shoot 1.5 in groups, and get into 350 yards or less, no elk will ever notice the bullets an inch or two further from its intended impact point"
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Exactly what is a potato gun? It was mentioned in the first part of this thread and I read about it on some ATF regulations yesterday.
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...waders, what are you shooting them in the leg for Flinch
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Get a new guide he is an idiot. You are not hunting gophers.
A rifle that will shoot THREE MOA will kill any Elk the average hunter should be shooting at.
30-06 with a 150 TSX loaded max w/4350 will kill any Elk that lives.
A 223 is also illegal in most states for big game.
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It would not be legal in several states. Oregon included.
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I've shot some golf balls out of mine with newspaper packing. You can't even see them when they leave the barrel. Haven't messed with it in 10 years but if I remember correctly the golf balls went in the neighborhood of 500 yards. Got drunk one night in high school and shot the side of a mobile home with a green walnut, made quite the racket.
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Holy crap...some folks are actually taking this post seriously. Here's my disclaimer: I posted a reply recommending the 40 grain V-Max. For those of you who do not see this as a joke...IT IS NOT SERIOUS. "ShootDogs" does NOT recommend or condone hunting elk with a 40 grain V-Max in a .223. There is no circumstance in which this is the appropriate load for hunting elk!
Am I lawyer-proof now?
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Gohip: Aim your 223 for the Elks eyes - then maybe you can blind the Elk and run up and trip it with your foot then you and the guide (wearing blue jeans!) can leap upon said creature and strangle it with your bare hands! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Ya might try some different ammo in the '06.
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Potato gun? Why would someone want to shoot potatoes? Where do you aim on a potato for a good kill? Are red ones tougher than brown ones? Are Yukon Golds easier to headshoot because they have bigger eyes? How much does a shoulder mount cost? How do you score a potato?
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