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See my post from 20 seconds before your last post. =============== PPP has Romney beating Obama by 15 points in SC. It's ranged from 6-15 points. Find another poll that corroborates the one you found then maybe I'll focus a bit more on it. When is the last time the PPP poll you referenced was taken? I don't see any Romney v. Obama in the data currently listed on PPP's website for South Carolina. You care to provide a link? =============== I'll try to find it again,RR. IIRC,I believe it was a end of third qtr 2011 poll.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
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30 % right 30 % left 40 % middle/independant
Thats not a MSLSD lie thats a fact. Your backwards and to small minded to see it. Romney and McCain have nothing in commen at all. dave
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Never figured he would get elected in 2008, so go figure.
I also never thought Bill Clinton would get elected or reelected He didn't Parrot got him elected.
The only way Obama will get reelected is if Ron Paul runs on a third party ticket.
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very true. it will likely require an extraordinary effort to dislodge the incumbent.
but, look at Pres. Johnson and Pres. Carter. it has happened before, more or less. Look at GB 1, he came out of Desert Storm with one of the highest Presidential ratings ever held as a first term POTUS. A year later he was beaten by an unknown former AR. Gov. strange things do happen in politics.
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30 % right 30 % left 40 % middle/independant
Thats not a MSLSD lie thats a fact. Your backwards and to small minded to see it. Romney and McCain have nothing in commen at all. dave
Yep, that's the simplistic way the MSM wants you to think about elections, and those numbers aren't quite right anyway. Dems have 35-40% in their base, Repubs have 30-35%, and the other 25-35% are the swing votes. Turnout is more critical than the swing voters. It isn't that swing voters aren't important, because they are, but a candidate isn't going to win without his base having a big turnout. A candidate like Romney can't energize the party's base, and therefore can't win regardless of how he does with swing voters.
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Lyndon Johnson only won ONE term/election for President. He did NOT run for a second term!
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Well you better start cheering for whoever the GOP puts up then. The raghead must go. dave
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Isaac, you think Jeb Bush will endorse Romney?
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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my only concern is if i have enough ammo for when he losses and the brothers start their crap.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Surefire is coming out with hundred round AR mags, could you imagine the weight of that.
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Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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30 % right 30 % left 40 % middle/independant
Thats not a MSLSD lie thats a fact. Your backwards and to small minded to see it. Romney and McCain have nothing in commen at all. dave
Not according to Thomas Sowell: The smart money inside the Beltway says that the Republicans need to pick a moderate candidate who can appeal to independent voters, not just to the conservative voters who turn out to vote in Republican primaries. Those who think this way say that you have to "reach out" to Hispanics, the elderly and other constituencies.
What is remarkable is how seldom the smart money folks look at what has actually been happening in presidential elections.
Ronald Reagan won two landslide elections when he ran as Ronald Reagan.
Vice President George H.W. Bush then won when he ran as if he were another Ronald Reagan, with his famous statement, "Read my lips, no new taxes." But after Bush 41 was elected and turned "kinder and gentler" -- to everyone except the taxpayers -- he lost to an unknown governor from a small state.
Other Republican presidential candidates who went the "moderate" route -- Bob Dole and John McCain -- also came across as neither fish nor fowl, and also went down to defeat.
Now the smart money inside the Beltway is saying that Mitt Romney, who is nothing if not versatile in his positions, is the Republicans' best hope for replacing Obama.
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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70% chance Obama gets re-elected.
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And I agree with Beck when he stated Romney will kill Obama in the debates. Obama will not be in any debates. Ain't gonna happen.
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95% sure that the current occupants get sent packing.
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And I agree with Beck when he stated Romney will kill Obama in the debates. Obama will not be in any debates. Ain't gonna happen. He might do one if chris "I get a tingly feeling up my leg" Matthews moderates it.
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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It's well known in political circles that Jimmy Carter would have beat Reagon in 1980 if he had refused to debate, and that has not been forgoten by Obama's handlers.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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IF the rag head wins, I am investin all of my money in 6" and 8" PVC pipe companies and silica pack companies. Just from what I have seen at work... the guys that will admit they voted spook last time sure are NOT voting spook this time. It is a little late to get into the fight but maybe I should enter the election...........
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Yeah.... 80% The Kenyan Mistake gets his second term.
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Yeah.... 80% The Kenyan Mistake gets his second term. As much as it pains me to say so, I think you are right. A large part of O's voting block does NOT give a rip about unemployment, deficits, transparency, or anything else that actually matters. What they care about are government handouts, advancement of a Socialist/Communist agenda( to attain the social utopia promised by such a system), and re - election of a black President. All the other stuff really just does not matter. Throw in the percentage of people that vote for whomever the TV tells them to, and VIOLA! Re - election! AND, we must not forget that the Republicans cannot seem to win ANYTHING! SHEESH! I hope I'm wrong. I can't see us getting out from under another term. We can barely salvage our country after one term.
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70% Obama doesn't get re-elected. Don't you guys listen to Rush.
My concern is voter fraud and the like. That factor is hard to quantify but may be as high as 10% ???? I'd still have to say no way. I'm really surprised others have zero optimism.
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