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The dates for this excellent summer gathering have been set for August 15-17, 2014.
This is the place to inquire, get info, indicate interest and whatever. Let 'er roll.
Will the powers that be kindly make this thread a sticky? Thank you.
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Since I had to cancel out on the one in Texas, will be making sure to make this one....you Arizona boys weren't a bad bunch of guys....well most of ya at least...  
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] You better watchem, Seafire! There are some scoundrels in the bunch!  Chances are good there will be at least one there. I have been ordered to attend by one of the few who can order me around. I will do my best.
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Well, this just sucks. I learned this morning that I have a training conference to attend on South Padre Island that begins @ 08:00AM, Monday, August 18. No way I can be at Armijo Springs, folks.  Ed
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dammit Ed, we are more important 
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dammit Ed, we are more important On one level, you are correct, on another, you have to come in second place. Since I'm being paid to train there, I cannot back out. Gotta pay the bills. Ed
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Well, this just sucks. I learned this morning that I have a training conference to attend on South Padre Island that begins @ 08:00AM, Monday, August 18. No way I can be at Armijo Springs, folks. Ed DRAT!!! I was hoping to get one of your famous handgun shooting lessons.
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Well, this just sucks. I learned this morning that I have a training conference to attend on South Padre Island that begins @ 08:00AM, Monday, August 18. No way I can be at Armijo Springs, folks. Ed Ed, I know for a fact you can get a plane ticket from ABQ to Houston late Sunday night! I know of a 'gated community' where you can store your stuff for a few days.
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Ed, I know for a fact you can get a plane ticket from ABQ to Houston late Sunday night!
I know of a 'gated community' where you can store your stuff for a few days. Thank you, Jon, but the logistics of getting to and from Quemado and carrying all my gear wouldn't allow that in the time I have. Ed
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Said it in the PM - bears repeating here - Ed, this hurts. Not the same without guys like you.
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Ed, I know for a fact you can get a plane ticket from ABQ to Houston late Sunday night!
I know of a 'gated community' where you can store your stuff for a few days. Thank you, Jon, but the logistics of getting to and from Quemado and carrying all my gear wouldn't allow that in the time I have. Ed You can leave your gear with me.
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You can leave your gear with me. What do I do with Barbara? Ed
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We'll take care of her to.
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Hmmm...missed the Az gathering due to work. Hope I can make this one but the dates scare me atm. Hey cross wanna carpool? Can save on all those greenhouse gases and such! :-)
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Looking forward to it already!
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I don't know... like the song said... " I've got friends in LOW PLACES"
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It's now on the main calendar for us.
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Hmmm...missed the Az gathering due to work. Hope I can make this one but the dates scare me atm. Hey cross wanna carpool? Can save on all those greenhouse gases and such! :-) Sounds like a plan, J. GTC
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I saw a Cousin of mine at a family reunion a month or so back and She got all hostile with me when She found out that I have been going to New Mexico and not coming to see Her. Looks like I will have to take the Southern route this year. miles
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Hostile southern womyn, eh Miles? Maybe you ought to load her in and bring her along - spice for the occasion.
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Maybe you ought to load her in and bring her along - spice for the occasion. I doubt that She has any interest in Shooting but you never know. I rarely see Her as she moved out West 40 years or so ago. I have been trying to think of her last name and can't seem to quite come up with it. I can remember her Maiden name but not the married one. Old age, I hope. miles
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I think i will bring a .22 rifle, and a brick of ammo. Just so people can remember what a .22 is. And a wolf call. I was looking at a 1919 yesterday and kind of smiling.
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THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
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I have been bringing .22 ammo at each one but just a pistol and not any rifles. Might bring the nylon 66. miles
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I have been trying to think of her last name and can't seem to quite come up with it. I can remember her Maiden name but not the married one. Old age, I hope. miles Ah, another aging test! When I read this, I started trying to recall my cousin Pam's married name. She married an Irishman and they moved to Toronto, maybe 45 years ago. Haven't seen her but once or maybe twice since then. Took me about 25-30 seconds, but did come up with the name. Mildly gratifying. Keep 'em coming, Miles.
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I'm doing good this morning... I remember my maiden name...
but I am playing hookie from the rest of the world and going out to waste some more of Oregon's Sage Rat population today...
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Miles, don't feel too bad - sometimes I can't remember my kid sister's maiden name.
Ben - good to hear from you. Your memory seems a lot better than mine.
Ron, if we have something like a 200 yard shooting challenge for .22 rimfire, we can test a Model 19 and Miles' Nylon 66.
Seafire, do those thing taste like sage when you cook/eat 'em?
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Miles, don't feel too bad - sometimes I can't remember my kid sister's maiden name. Hell Paul! I can't pronounce my kid sisters married name! Married a fine Czech boy up in Iowa! Lemme mark my calendar. Might just be able to take the south trail thru the lower end of Comancheria. Sounds like another fine time! Bob
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Might just be able to take the south trail thru the lower end of Comancheria. Sounds like another fine time!
I took a detour and looked at Palo Duro Canyon last year. Some historic country in that area. miles
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Bob, I do hope that you can make it to this one. The folks are first-rate and the enjoyment factor is HIGH - not to mention the surroundings.
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"The Warden" & I are planning on being there - hoping to meet members we haven't, and see members we have.
Sincerely hope GTC & Jcubed make it, and sorry to miss seeing Ed again (+not meeting Barbara!)
Just maybe - Barbara would come without that old grouch!
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Coyotes and seagulls, owls, bald eagles, falcons, hawks eat them once dead....
not that humans want to eat them, but if they did, after whats left of one that has had a solid hit with a fast moving 40 grain V Max, about 10 of them might be enough to equal the size of a MacNugget.....
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Ed, sorry to hear you won't be in N.M. this year, you will be missed,send Barbara in your place we will watch over her while your out of town. rio7
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Did some figgerin' last night. May come down to the gathering and next years elk hunt. Just havta play in by ear right now.
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Paul, sending a PM to Rick will get this posted as a sticky.
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Scott - a few days ago I sent a very polite request for a sticky to "Talk To Webmaster". No reply - no action. Is that the correct way to reach Rick Bin, or is there a better path?
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Scott - a few days ago I sent a very polite request for a sticky to "Talk To Webmaster". No reply - no action. Is that the correct way to reach Rick Bin, or is there a better path? Paul, It took a number of PM's, at least one Email, and a phone call to Rick from BrotherBart to get the East Texas thread made a sticky, so don't give up hope. Ed
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Thanks, Ed. I am earnest and want to get it done right, but it's not my style to beg. Maybe someone with a better connection to Mr. Bin can get 'er done.
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Good Morning and a Happy Easter, Rick !
PLEASE make this post a Sticky.
...pretty please with a nice gin and tonic
Thank you,
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That should work, cross!
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Sure wish I could make this meeting, they sound like so much fun.
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Sure wish I could make this meeting, they sound like so much fun. They are! Mark
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Sticky, please? Pretty please? With sugar? With sugar and a cherry on top? Double scoop of Blue Bell Natural Vanilla Bean ice cream with hot fudge, chopped pecans, and TWO cherries on top? How about a great bottle of Cabernet? Ed
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Great minds CCCC!
I was just coming here to bump this thing myself!
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Hey, Rick! Do I need to make it a bottle of Silver Oak Cabernet?  Bump for a future great time! Ed
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I would think there would be a wealth of knowledge at this meeting as well. What I have read is that all the people there are glad to share their experiences and teach all who want to learn.
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There usually are many people at these Gatherings that have and share their wealth of knowledge. Not just on firearms, but every subject under the sun.
You will not be disappointed if you attend, I can assure you of that!
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I sure hope I can. It is at my busy time of year, but if I can I am heading to the gathering.
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Thanks, Thomas. Bumperoo!
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Thanks, Rick! We really appreciate this!
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Yes, THANK YOU! Rick. 
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THANKS FOR THIS STICKY - MUCH APPRECIATED.
OK - just a brief repeat of the announcement: The dates for this excellent summer gathering have been set for August 15-17, 2014.
The area near the campground has a more open look due to some recent forest thinning - an "urban interface project" if you can conjure "urban" way out here (only the USFS). In addition to reduction of forest fire issues, the thinning should give us enhanced conditions for shoots within short reach of the camp.
So - those planning to participate can indicate same here and get on the eventual PM final planning list.
If you have ideas for interesting shoots and other activities, please post them here.
Questions about location, etc. - this is the place.
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Dave (Paladin) was just here for a very satisfying (for me) visit � nicely longer than just a "drive by" drop-in-bust-out fellowship.
He and his partners just got "Snuffy's" � the restaurant-bar-bait-shop-boat-rental out by the lake � open for business.
Another "let's do it" for our summer rendezvous!
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Scott - this is good - really good.
Maddy and I met Paladin at Snuffy's this evening - very nice visit as well. He noted his good time with Ken a bit earlier in the day.
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Now that's cool, guess we can call David 'little snuffy' now,,,
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He and his partners just got "Snuffy's" � the restaurant-bar-bait-shop-boat-rental out by the lake � open for business.
Hmmmm. Might have to come early or stay late and do some fishing. I hope that it is a good and profit filled venture for a really good guy. miles
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Miles, the fishing has been good so far, notwithstanding the recent gale force winds. Plenty 'o trout thus far. The lake also contains muskie - large muskie, as in 40" - 58". We ate some last year grilled over coals. I painted them with melted butter with salt & pepper. Talk about good, it was slap the dog and spit in the fire good, almost like eating lobster. But you need to watch out for these things - ![[Linked Image]](http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/TDBall56/SLOC_2007-09-18_1.jpg) Micro chip implants. I bit one in half that was in the flesh of the muskie. The G&F was at the lake yesterday and I was going to ask them about the implants but they were out in the boat so didn't get to speak to them. Paul tells me you missed getting blown away and I am certainly glad to hear that. David
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WOW David!!!!! Just think if you was to swaller one of them trackin' implants and G&F got to follering you all around the place!!!! You might have made the 6 o' clock news!!!!
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Those in Q lake are "Tiger Muskies" - hybrids planted here by G&F a few years ago in an effort to control some big goldfish/carp that some idiots dumped in a trout lake. It seems to have worked with the goldfish, but A LOT of rainbow trout got gobbled up along the way.
The muskies are fun and exhibit typical characteristics, but can't reproduce so eventually will be gone. Some are getting fairly big. Keepers must be over 40" and I think the limit is one per day.
If planning to fish in August, know that the trout tend to get mushy/less tasty as the lake warms all summer - best eating catch seems to be from now through June. Don't know how much the warming affects the muskies - haven't tried to taste a late summer muskie so far.
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Catching up the calendar this morning and found that I have an unavoidable conflict for that weekend. I really hate it--I had invited my younger daughter and her two kids to join us, so now I have to cancel that, as well.
I hate this, but I cannot ditch my prior commitment. I'm sure that you will all get along fine without me.
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Sorry to read this, Ben.
Have not yet known you to be wrong, but you missed on that one - we won't quite get along fine without you.
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Catching up the calendar this morning and found that I have an unavoidable conflict for that weekend. � Sadly, because of nervousness about gambling on July rains, we have a later date that definitely excludes some of our favorite guys � and guarantees, according to compa�ero CCCC, that the muskies in the lake probably won't be at their best as grub. Druther have you than muskies anyway, Ben! (FWIW, I predict plenty of rain in July. What are the odds? An ancient yarn tells us of two brothers who went into business as weather-forecasters. "It's gonna rain tomorrow," one'd say. "No, it ain't," the other'd say. They never missed.)
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Maybe the downer experience of again having a closed forest in July was not worth the concern of our core planning group. Could anyone on the Campfire identify a July weekend that would any better accommodate the schedules of all persons planning to participate? And, do we know yet the schedules of those unknowns?
In a perfect world - - -
well, in a perfect world all schedules always will fit together, we won't be inclined to carp about decisions made by those who step forward, take responsibility and do their best - and warm water Muskies will taste great.
I'll sure miss you in August Ben, and am looking forward to experiencing your smiling countenance sometime soon.
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Maybe the downer experience of again having a closed forest in July was not worth the concern of our core planning group. Paul, even with the prospect of Ben and Ed not being able to attend, you had to set a date. You did ask for input into what dates people could not come. I figure any date picked would have made somebody miss. Cheer up, I plan to be there. miles
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How far ahead (maximum, minimum) can each of us plan for attending a special event?
Some want to chisel a date in stone for next year � others want to wait to see what they can handle within a coming week or two.
I once proposed a hiking trip in Montana for myself and three or four of my buddies in Akron. All wanted to come out, but they all wanted to wait until just a couple of weeks before they decided when they could come out.
Some of our commitments had to be set as early as late winter or early spring, but they all wanted to wait until midsummer to even start thinking about setting a date.
So my hike was solo and short.
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sorry to see Ben,and Ed, wont be with us, both add a great deal to our campfire, am sure we will all meet again somewhere,I for one am looking forward to seeing old friends and making new friends, i'll be there GOD WILLING. RIO7
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Thanks Miles and Blue - good to hear from you. Sure am looking forward to seeing you two long-distance troopers and the rest of this great gang - maybe some participants will travel even farther. These events just seem to get better and better, but sure will miss Ed and Ben.
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Ed and Ben will be missed.
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Ed and Ben will be missed. This is true, along with young Mr. Graham. miles
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I'm pretty sure had I swallered one 'o them thangs, the G&F would have been plumb perplexed as to how a tiger muskie got into the Albuquerque sewer system.
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A neighbor lady in town swallowed one of those gadgets and soon grew a jut jaw, two rows of really sharp teeth and a dorsal fin.
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A neighbor lady in town swallowed one of those gadgets and soon grew a jut jaw, two rows of really sharp teeth and a dorsal fin. Guy beat his wife with a broom when she was pregnant with their son. Kid was born with a straw hat and a peg leg.
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If it doesn't sell, I may learn to shoot left handed... ![[Linked Image]](http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww127/tex_n_cal/leftvert_zpsb7b34e74.jpg)
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Holy smokes Patrick -
I thought you just got that beautiful thing !!
Does it have a left-cheek piece or any cast to the stock? If not, just use it righty, but maybe not when you need to take a second or third shot at escaping game.
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I will have to look at cast; it does have a cheekpiece on the other side.
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Scott - this is good - really good.
Maddy and I met Paladin at Snuffy's this evening - very nice visit as well. He noted his good time with Ken a bit earlier in the day. Paul, I really enjoyed my visit with you and Maddy. It was a pleasure to spend the time we did and get to know you a little better. Should be seeing you a bit more often now. David
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Holy smokes Patrick -
I thought you just got that beautiful thing !!
Does it have a left-cheek piece or any cast to the stock? If not, just use it righty, but maybe not when you need to take a second or third shot at escaping game. well, it did sell, and the buyer is a lefty who collects left hand Mauser actions, and is delighted to have it. I'm pleased with the profit - win/win
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Wow, the attendees are dropping like flies! We may have to do two of them to accommodate everyone!
I booked a 3 day fishing trip for August 3-5 out of San Diego but will certainly will be back in time for Armijo spgs.
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Hurts to have to say this, guys � For reasons that you don't want to hear, I won't be contributing as usual to this year's rendezvous � (my loss). No guns or binoculars for prizes, no food, no personal mementos as in the past. No one'll notice that lack, of course. The food supply won't suffer, and maybe someone else'll step-up, as Butch Lambert has done, with prizes for the best shooting. I'll be out there for a few minutes if I can, just to watch the goin's-on. The shining fact � worth joyfully shouting about � is that our wonderful little get-togethers sustain themselves very well. Camaraderie at its best! Wonderful to behold.
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Dennis - of course we will miss Ed and Ben as they are among the key guys that have contributed by their presence and otherwise - and they will be back next time (I sure hope). And, it looks as though we are going to gain some interesting folks this time, just as we did at Roosevelt in Feb. AND - - DARBY will be at this one in all of his glory!!
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All hope is not lost I plan on being at Quemado  I really missed out by not making it to Ed too many letters get together. CCCC- I have some outdoors/hunting books I will try to bring down. They will make great pay forward fodder... Looking forward to August and seeing some new and old friends...
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Ever since "When will Armijo Springs camp ground get some rain this summer?" became a nagging question earlier this year, I've been increasingly curious about it.
I haven't kept records during the nine years that I've lived here, but my recollection is that the monsoon has begun in July more often than later.
So yesterday, I had Rick freight me over to the USFS ranger station (just across the street, but a journey for this ol' relic) to see what data I might get from the fire guy over there.
The Forest Service has obviously become much more of a bureaucracy than it was when I wore the green in the 1950s and 1960. What used to be simple records are now bales of paper and banks of file cabinets � mountains of virtually indecipherable minuti�. So much, in fact, that the district's kept records go back only four years (I wanted precipitation data for July over the years 2000�2013, or at least the last ten years � simple data in the old days.)
Interestingly, the data for the last four years show rainfall somewhere or other in the Quemado district every year.
When it comes to rainfall, this area is like a checker board, with the red squares stone-dry while the black squares soak and drip. I vividly remember the day a few summers ago when my front walk was as dry as my living-room floor, and seventy-five yards away, next-door, heavy rain was soaking the ground at the veterans' hall.
Oh, yes � almost forgot � data from the ranger station � somewhere or other in the district �
2010 � July 2.72 in. � August 3.35 in.
2011 � July 1.69 in. � August 2.99 in.
2012 � July 1.84 in. � August 2.40 in.
2013 � July 3.30 in. � August 2.58 in.
So � remembering the checker board � will we get rain at Armijo Springs this August? Somewhere close, for sure! Bring rain gear, "jes' in case!"
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Well, it did rain lightly most of one night at the 2013 gathering. I was glad that I went ahead and put up the tent.
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Minority opinion, maybe, but I'd rather have more people come, even if there's no rain to speak of.
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If it were to be moved to July there is no way we could make it The kids will be in California for much of the month. Surely the world doesn't revolve around me, but what I am gettin at is I think no matter the date its going to conflict for someone. It stinks but its the nature of big group meets like this.
As I recall we sceduled the second Quemado event in August after getting relegated to the gravel parking area by the lake at the first one due to lack of rain. It was a good time, but none of us appreciated the gravel, or the proximity of non-campfire folks especially when we left camp unattended to go shoot.
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� no matter the date its going to conflict for someone. � True to the nth.
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Thomas - your recall is quite correct and, after that experience, the worker bees decided it best to schedule ensuing summer gatherings for August, feeling that the odds for an open forest, with campfires, are much better.
Past USFS decisions about closed/open forests after a very dry Spring (like this one) show that some dispersed rain during the month of July usually is not the key factor. A significant determinant is the accumulation of rainfall to a point where the forest vegetation and earth/duff floor are in a decently wet condition. That accumulation and resultant favorably wet condition normally does not develop until August. Thus, our Aug. date.
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Even with the loss of Ed and Ben, I think the correct decision was made. Thomas is correct about any date picked will most likely exclude someone that we would like to be there. miles
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Paul,
Please keep me in the loop on this. I will be in Albuquerque for the Centennial Celebration of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation, but may be able to escape late Saturday afternoon and join you guys that evening.
Thanks!
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Hope so. It will be good to see you again. miles
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Ben, always we will want and keep you in this loop. It's really nice that you are part of that centennial celebration - but maybe by Sat afternoon you will ready to change to a different set of "old farts" - so hurry on down here if you can.
Should we name an honorary marksman to take your place in the early shoots on Saturday and, if so, whose rifle should he/she use?
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I could make other dates but I think it best that we leave it as set at this point
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Should we name an honorary marksman to take your place in the early shoots on Saturday and, if so, whose rifle should he/she use?
Random draw for both--that's how it always works for me.
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I will be embarrassed if Ben were to win, and not even be there. miles
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Well, I think that he's won - or at least come really close in the past - and we were not sure he was all there.
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Ok! Paul!!!
Been talking to young son here as we BBQ some pig. He's interested in coming out. If he comes I can swing the trip. Just hard for me to do it by myself. So put us down tentatively for now. 95% sure we will be there!!
Woohoo!!!
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I am doing my best to make it and hope you can come too. You are one of a long list I would like to share a campfire with.
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Bob - this is good and hope it works out as planned. If you get to this August campfire, I predict quite a bit of mutual enjoyment.
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You are one of a long list I would like to share a campfire with. Scott, you have no idea. One night at Ed's I laughed at Paladin and Him until my sides hurt. miles
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Yeah, we're kinda funny to look at!!!
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Hey, I resemble that remark.
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You guys had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. Man, I'm really going to miss this. Ed
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I'm catching up on this kind of late, but I guess not so late that I missed the gathering. Being just up the road a bit I'm working on my schedule and hope to make this. Can someone fill in this noob on the ins and outs of the gathering? I gather its a great time, involves shooting and swapping lies, I mean stories. What else?
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What's the approximate driving time from some part of Phoenix to the site? I'm thinking my chances of attending are slim, but a (long) day trip might work.
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About 275 miles. (Six hours?)
http://maps.randmcnally.com/?s=screen&loc1=Elkridge%2C%20MD&loc2=Quemado%2C%20NM#s=screen&lat=33.7997&lon=-110.288385&zoom=12&loc1=Phoenix%2C%20AZ&loc2=Quemado%2C%20NM&loc3=&loc4=&loc5=&loc6=&loc7=&loc8=&loc9=&loc10=
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What's the approximate driving time from some part of Phoenix to the site? I'm thinking my chances of attending are slim, but a (long) day trip might work. About 5.5 hours from the east valley, about 6 from mid Phx and more from the west side. Depends on your route and driving style.
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Thanks both of you for the estimates. I'll look at the computer mapping solutions. I'm pretty far west side, would have to drop down to the 10, cross town, and probably angle up thru Payson and Show Low is my guess.
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Straight down the 60 east is about as easy as it gets if you don't mind Salt River Canyon.
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CCCC,s estimate is pretty good as i am on the west side too.
I have usually gone up the beeline to payson then over. Pretty drive tho. It's just over the stateline from springerville anyway.
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From Tempe, US 60 to Show Low seems shorter than Beeline/Payson route. Mostly 4 lane uphill to Payson and also to the Rim.
On 60, some of the 2 lane east of Globe can be a pain if busy.
But, from Globe to SL seems like a lot less traffic and the canyon has nice old memories.
Either way is pretty stuff.
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Salt River Canyon � US-60 north of Globe � is great for eyeballs and cameras but not so great for steering wheels and brakes.
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Salt River Canyon � US-60 north of Globe � is great for eyeballs and cameras but not so great for steering wheels and brakes.
Don't gawk if you're driving! All too true. Steep enough to use the trailer/engine brake feature (if your outfit has one) to save on brakes even if you're not pulling a trailer. One of the two mountain lions I've seen in the wild was between Globe and 4-5 miles before the canyon. Ran across the road in the afternoon. Pretty drive as long as someone else is behind the wheel.
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I dry from Mesa to Springerville at least once a month and sometimes more (twice this week already). Going through Salt River Canyon is faster and shorter than going through Payson-260. If you go on a weekday, Payson route isn't too bad but on a weekend, it can really get clogged up and take a LONG time. I don't chance it anymore. I drove home via Payson Saturday as I had a layover in Colcord to tour a ranch. I got backed up a little before Star Valley.
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Whats the best route there if someone is coming thru Flagstaff?
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Whats the best route there if someone is coming thru Flagstaff? � I-40 east to Holbrook � US-180 south to Springerville � US-60 east to intersection with NM-32, western edge of Quemado � NM-32 south past County Road 103 (about 15�20 miles � paved road to Quemado Lake) � USFS road east about 4�5 miles to Armijo Springs campground (Turn left onto the unpaved USFS road when you see the mail boxes in a turn-out on the right-hand side of NM-32. You'll see the USFS sign for Armijo Springs campground beside this road just after you turn left off NM-32.)
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Whats the best route there if someone is coming thru Flagstaff? � I-40 east to Holbrook � US-180 south to Springerville � US-60 east to intersection with NM-32, western edge of Quemado � NM-32 south past County Road 103 (about 20 miles � paved road to Quemado Lake) THANKS KEN, ROAD RE-NAMING UPDATE HERE
� After Mile Marker 24, turn left (east) on County Road marked A021 and continue east about 4 miles to Armijo Springs campground - turn right at "Y".
(As you turn left onto CR A021 you will see USPS mail boxes in a turn-out on the right-hand side of NM-32, and you'll see the USFS sign for Armijo Springs campground beside A021 just after you turn left off NM-32.)
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Or just stop at the "Y" and listen--you will hear the camp.
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Or just stop at the "Y" and listen--you will hear the camp. Or circle around to the lee and sniff.
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Gettin' my tent ready!!!! Pups approve! ![[Linked Image]](http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/lt13demi/Mobile%20Uploads/image-72.jpg)
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kaywoodie,looking forward to seeing you and your son in N.M. this will be my third year there, and every year it just gets better,great camp ground, wonderful people, great food,fun shooting, great storys. rio7
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Thanks Blue! Btw, watch your mailbox!
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Dunno yet. Might bring it anyway. Of there's room. May opt to stay under it instead of the tent. Was gonna buy a new tent. But decided not to. The old one is still serviceable. That will leave me more available funds for the man cave project. But I did also find a nice Model 8 Remington on Gun Broker too. Decisions, decisions!
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One good thing about camping high elevation here in August is that shelters and open tents seem to work fairly well. Troublesome ground critters seem very rare and if the lid is wide/long enough to run off the evening thunderstorm rains, the goods stay dry.
Our junior attendee (now in Turkey for a while) has slept in a light hammock tied twixt two ponderosas and and once maybe a small open tent with a pal. Last year he brought a very lovely person - I think they roosted on a high limb up in that big oak at night - or were those owls hooooing?.
Lots of fairly flat surface at the camp site and a USFS john.
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BTW, in case any of you ferriners are wondering, the pronunciation of Armijo is "army hoe," not "army Joe." (Wouldn't want any of you nice people to sound like outlanders!)
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Paul,
I was surprised how dry all my stuff stayed at Ed's under my little awning. Nuthin' got wet!! Even with the wind! Love my canvas. Suppose I had the sides low enough. Even tho I chickened out Friday night and spent the evening in the Brig. Saturday evening shower was not as bad. Slept like a babe!!! Think Miles' George Dickel helped a bit!!!
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Scored 999 rounds of Winchester 22lr this week for kids (of all ages)at Quemado. Also a Smith and Wesson model 18 22 dispenser will be available for use...
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I'm starting to think of a .22 for Mia, she's just two but it won't be long. I just have my old Stevens 15 that you pull the plunger back. I need something smaller and more user friendly.
If anyone has anything I can buy, bring it to NM this summer.
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Gettin' my tent ready!!!! Pups approve dammit ofcourse your gonna be there this year.....dont think ill be back from Australia yet to make it.....hopefully heading over the first part of July and am HOPING to spend atleast two months there if everything works out and the Aussie members of the fire dont mind putting up with me for a good part of it.....oh well looking more and more when i come back to the states ill be setting up shop alot closer to the southern border than the northern so maybe next year....
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I'm starting to think of a .22 for Mia, she's just two but it won't be long. I just have my old Stevens 15 that you pull the plunger back. I need something smaller and more user friendly.
If anyone has anything I can buy, bring it to NM this summer.
Kent The Chipmunk is probably the best option, but I'd gladly donate my Stevens 1915 Favorite to the cause, if you think the size/function would be satisfactory. It shoots well but needs a little work; I need to get it fixed anyway.
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I'm starting to think of a .22 for Mia, she's just two but it won't be long. I just have my old Stevens 15 that you pull the plunger back. I need something smaller and more user friendly.
If anyone has anything I can buy, bring it to NM this summer.
Kent The Chipmunk is probably the best option, but I'd gladly donate my Stevens 1915 Favorite to the cause, if you think the size/function would be satisfactory. It shoots well but needs a little work; I need to get it fixed anyway. I was disappointed in the Chipmunk I bought for April in the early 'nineties. I wanted her to learn to shoot with iron sights, but the blade was too short to allow a proper zero so I had to scope it. Since it was designed as a beginner rifle, I thought the sights being unusable was especially unforgivable. The Favorite I bought for my son in the 'seventies was dead on and he learned to shoot it pretty good. Making the Quemado gathering is still a possibility, but not a certainty.
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I'll try to bring another S&W 18, and a Chipmunk. Think I even have a Win 67A boys carbine stashed around here somewhere. I'm scant on 22 LR ammo, however.
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I'm starting to think of a .22 for Mia, she's just two but it won't be long. I just have my old Stevens 15 that you pull the plunger back. I need something smaller and more user friendly.
If anyone has anything I can buy, bring it to NM this summer.
Kent The Chipmunk is probably the best option, but I'd gladly donate my Stevens 1915 Favorite to the cause, if you think the size/function would be satisfactory. It shoots well but needs a little work; I need to get it fixed anyway. Patric, That would be a cool vintage gun and project Mia and I could share in when she's a little older. I think the single shot and lever works well together. Let me know a price. Kent
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I'll try to bring another S&W 18, and a Chipmunk. Think I even have a Win 67A boys carbine stashed around here somewhere. I'm scant on 22 LR ammo, however.
Mark I have a brick of 550 plus some shorts... I'll snitch some from Brian also. Kent
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I'm scant on 22 LR ammo, however.
I will be bringing some .22 LR ammo. miles
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I should have some .22LR with us as well.
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Gene - sure hope you can get here - will miss you bad if you don't.
With guys being so nice to bring that .22R ammo, maybe (finally) we should do a challenging .22R shoot this year. Maybe group at 150/200 yards - or a golf ball at 75 - or ????.
Kent - if none of these other nicer .22s fit the bill for Mia, I have a kid sized Marlin SS BA that has shot great and taught 6 grandkids (and a few local young'uns) - would be glad to pass it along if it is the right one. It's not pink or lavender, but a guy could get Thomas to paint it. (Good to hear from you Tom).
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[quote=krp]I'm starting to think of a .22 for Mia, she's just two but it won't be long. I just have my old Stevens 15 that you pull the plunger back. I need something smaller and more user friendly.
If anyone has anything I can buy, bring it to NM this summer.
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I've got that relined (22 LR) Stevens Favorite that I fitted with worked over Stevens 44 wood years back for TLee.
He just couldn't get around to finishing it, and the smith at the shop he works at wouldn't / couldn't.
He sent me the whole shebang, with an advisory that I was trusted to see that this kinda NICE 75-80 % complete project made it into the right hands.
Kent, the thing's yours (well, more properly HERS) if you want.
....needs the firing pin relocated, and an extractor fitted, IIRC.
Got a 44 to finish up here too, for Roger Hunter's Grandson Wyatt.
That would make a nice Fall / Winter thread after the August rondy, no ?
With modern firing pins, striking properly, the cocking effort on those can be reduced a LOT,.....I DO recomend leaving the close to half cock feature intact....cock on opening is for mature competition shooters, and sometimes I wonder about THAT.
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I've never painter a gun pink... Zebra stripe - yep.... Black/tan flames - yep... Black/tan stripes - yep, and just this weekend Flat O.D./black stripes... ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/77718612-28B9-44FC-9C73-F7965CA2EC01.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/F45C74B1-F8B0-4D67-8E84-BA0FD0E7B758.jpg) But again never have I painted a gun PINK....
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If pink (shudder) is the call out, this works out pretty well. The beat up old stock sitting below Terry's favorite could be shortened to youth proportions, and will NEED paint of some sort, as it's already wearing several ancient repair attempts. As she grows, the stock it's wearing here could be fitted. The blue tape is holding on a Favorite forend, I have the beefier 44 forend here , that could be fitted with the beefier butt stock. Oh hell,....what I'm trying to get at is that we have TWO sets of stocks. Barrels are a SNAP, fitting up spares for a Favorite is a walk in the park,....the one pictured is a mite long for a youth rifle, and can be shorted as well. ![[Linked Image]](http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x59/sharpsrifle/MiasFavorite1jpg_zps4e80ece6.jpg)
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If anyone is on the fence about attending, my advice is do it. A great bunch of people in a truly special place. They made a redneck yankee and his wife feel right at home. A wonderful time!
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If pink (shudder) is the call out, this works out pretty well. The beat up old stock sitting below Terry's favorite could be shortened to youth proportions, and will NEED paint of some sort, as it's already wearing several ancient repair attempts. As she grows, the stock it's wearing here could be fitted. The blue tape is holding on a Favorite forend, I have the beefier 44 forend here , that could be fitted with the beefier butt stock. Oh hell,....what I'm trying to get at is that we have TWO sets of stocks. Barrels are a SNAP, fitting up spares for a Favorite is a walk in the park,....the one pictured is a mite long for a youth rifle, and can be shorted as well. Good, that one is probably a better choice than mine for the young lass, as the 1915's original stock is probably too long for her, designed as they were for ~10 year old boys. The ejector on mine is also too fussy to give a youngster. And needs to go to Cross for repair
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I've never painter a gun pink...
But again never have I painted a gun PINK.... Dear Thomas: Kindly post a photo of your .223 AI.
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Dear Paul: Sure thing, but that is neither pink nor paint. It's gelcoat over fiberglass. Specifically orange, yellow, red, and dark blue. ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/5EE085E7-443F-498B-9F11-618637BA6217.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/100_1113.jpg)
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Er, yes - as said - you haven't yet painted a gun pink. But, how did you manage to limit yourself to just those 4 mild shades?
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Well its does take restraint PW. Wait until you see the next one I planned...
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I think I can tolerate seeing a pink gun (at least with a girl shooting it). Now zombie green drives me up a tree 
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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Campfire Ranger
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I'm speechless with all the generosity of my friends, I was hoping for a handmedown as a starter and appreciate all offers. Thanks amigos, looks like a made for campfire thread coming in the future.
Kent
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Campfire Ranger
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And we ain't even met Mia yet!
"Good enough" isn't.
Always take your responsibilities seriously but never yourself.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I'm speechless with all the generosity of my friends, I was hoping for a handmedown as a starter and appreciate all offers. Thanks amigos, looks like a made for campfire thread coming in the future.
Kent Hey, thank TLee,.....I'm just paying my regular dues, Bud. GTC
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-- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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And we ain't even met Mia yet! Wed nights are her stayover night, we just put a cake in the oven... come'on over... reason number 87 I wish you lived closer. Kent
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Campfire Outfitter
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It's started: Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests Implements Stage II Fire Restrictions Friday, May 23Springerville, AZ; May 21, 2014�To protect public health and safety due to increasing fire danger, the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests (ASNFs) will implement Stage II fire restrictions effective Friday, May 23, at 8 a.m. These additional fire restrictions will remain in effect until forest officials determine that conditions have changed sufficiently to reduce the risk of human-caused wildfire. No campfires are allowed until Stage II fire restrictions are lifted. Stage II fire restrictions prohibit the following: 1. Building, maintaining, attending or using a fire, campfire, charcoal, coal, or stove fire except for devices fueled solely by liquid petroleum or LPG fuels that can be turned on and off. Such devices can only be used in an area that is barren or cleared of all overhead and surrounding flammable materials within three feet of the device. 2. Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle or building. 3. Using an explosive. 4. Possessing, discharging or using any type of firework or pyrotechnic device. 5. Operating a chainsaw or any equipment powered by an internal combustion engine from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. 6. Welding or operating acetylene or other torches with an open flame. 7. Operating or using any internal or external combustion engines without a spark arresting device. 8. Possessing or using a motor vehicle off National Forest System roads, except when parking in an area devoid of vegetation within 10 feet of the roadway or parking overnight in Forest Service developed campgrounds and trailheads. To report a fire, call 911. The ASNFs coordinate weekly with federal, state, and tribal land management agencies and counties, cities, and towns in the White Mountains to determine what level of fire restrictions or closures may be necessary. Criteria used to determine whether to implement fire restrictions include weather, fuel moisture, fire activity, and available firefighting resources. There are also important components of risk management and the professional judgment of fire managers and line officers. Community concerns are always considered. We are hearing a range of opinions and comments from local community members and visitors. We aim to be responsive to community concerns and to try to allow for safe and reasonable use of the forests. This is often a difficult and delicate balance. In addition to increasing fire restrictions, additional law enforcement officers will be on duty for the next two weeks. Follow the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests on Twitter (@A_SNFs) for instant updates on fire information, fire restrictions, and fire prevention. Know Before You Go! To help you understand where and when fire restrictions and possible closures exist, there are several resources available. The public can obtain additional fire information via the following: Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests http://www.fs.usda.gov/asnf Northeastern Arizona Public Information System http://311info.net/ or call 311 or 928-333-3412 Arizona Fire Restrictions http://firerestrictions.us/az/ Arizona Fire Prevention & Information (fire restrictions & red flag alerts) http://wildlandfire.az.gov/
Ben
Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
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Campfire Kahuna
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There's a big one going over on the Bobacomori,....two days now.
GTC
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-- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Well I suppose we won't skimp on the p�t� now huh?
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Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Campfire Ranger
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"Good enough" isn't.
Always take your responsibilities seriously but never yourself.
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New Member
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Well since scoundrels and such are apparently welcome. I believe i will participate and help in any way possible. And i will bring way more than a hammock. Lemme know what i can do.
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Campfire Ranger
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Well since scoundrels and such are apparently welcome. I believe i will participate and help in any way possible. And i will bring way more than a hammock. Lemme know what i can do. For the rest of you folks who have never met this young gentleman, I give you Alan, Oldman2003's son. He was at the East Texas Gathering, helping his folks with that scrumptious crawfish boil. Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Alan!!! Glad to see you are going to try to make it!!! We will have a great time!!! Again!!
A fellow blackguard,
Bob
Last edited by kaywoodie; 05/26/14.
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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My good man that sounds absolutely capital !!!!!!! Let it be done.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Prayers requested. I have my wife about 49% convinced we should take about five days and drive down, spent time at the get together, maybe swing over to Phoenix to see friends there, then head to San Diego to see our son and DIL. Maybe back roads whenever possible and make it a three week trip. Could bring my guns and ammo without hassle and just enjoy the sights.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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Campfire Tracker
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Scott, did you tell your wife how all the women get breakfast in bed and wine and chocolate in the evenings at Quemado?
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Campfire 'Bwana
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No I hadn't until you brought it up. Now she thinks it is great that you offered to do that for her.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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If word of this gets out women may outnumber men this year.
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Campfire Ranger
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Prayers requested. I have my wife about 49% convinced we should take about five days and drive down, spent time at the get together, maybe swing over to Phoenix to see friends there, then head to San Diego to see our son and DIL. Maybe back roads whenever possible and make it a three week trip. Could bring my guns and ammo without hassle and just enjoy the sights. scott, the only difficulty with this is you driving in california with ol chocolate, but being the kind of person i am, would be happy to domicile said ol chocolate while you were in the land of infidels.
THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Your kindness is overwhelming. I will be mounting a pistol safe in the back of whatever we would drive. That should take care of CA.
I may have to go to CA anyway as it seems like we just started a construction company there and I am the 51% owner.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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Campfire Ranger
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fell last night � again. But no harm done, as usual. Usually, I've been able to engineer myself back up somehow, but couldn't this time. No big deal, thinks I, I'll just skooch over to my chair and hoist myself up.Couldn't skooch. Couldn't reach my Life Alert button. Tried to call for help, but the 'phone wouldn't work. (I'd apparently kicked it unplugged in my flailing around.) So I just lay there, unable to sit up, unable to move, for the longest, loneliest, most discouraging three hours of my life. Weird sensations and the aftermath suggest that I may've had another stroke while I lay there. Thought that I may be dying. I'd been praying, and added a fervent prayer that God would let me come Home right then and there, but He didn't grant that one. (I lay there hoping that I could at least make Steelhead happy! ) When Ric found me, and lifted me into my chair, I was too weak to speak. I'm still far weaker than I was when I fell. But now the fear of falling is a heavy, haunting, crippling presence. Never was, before. Before last night's little dance with gravity, falling was just another usual passing nuisance � familiar, not fearsome. It's looking more and more unlikely that I'll be able to put-in even a brief token appearance at the August rendezvous.
"Good enough" isn't.
Always take your responsibilities seriously but never yourself.
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Campfire Oracle
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Dang Ken. 
Life Member SCI
Life Member DSC
Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
Ken
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Ken,
When my great aunt lived by us, she also fell away from her phone and life alert. We bought bought a chain for her life alert to wear....yes, when she bent over, it would call all of us.
I can also relate to the anger at not being able to move after falling. Take care of yourself!!!! (((HUGS)))
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When visiting Ken H at home yesterday, it was troubling that he had weakened appreciably and rather quickly. He tended to attribute the problems to a sudden loss of balance and resulting fall the previous evening. I thought otherwise and have been on the matter since then. Right now he is hospitalized and undergoing a variety of exams/tests toward a diagnosis. Praying is indicated.
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Prayers sent for Ken Howell and also for you Paul.
Life Member SCI
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Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
Ken
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Thank you Paul for taking him. You are a blessing. Sending prayers to both of you.
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The various tests have revealed nothing specific. Ken was significantly dehydrated and IV fluids have him feeling better. Ken is now back at home and resting. I will be checking with/on him again in the morning. Rick Sharp from up this way has been very helpful with transport in this situation. More later as I come to know it.
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Campfire Oracle
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Thanks Paul. Glad it's nothing serious.
Life Member SCI
Life Member DSC
Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
Ken
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Thanks Paul and may God bless you.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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The various tests have revealed nothing specific. Ken was significnatly dehydrated and IV fluids have him feeling better. Ken is now back at home and resting. I will be checking with/on him again in the morning. Rick Sharp from up this way has been very helpful with transport in this situation. More later as I come to know it. Paul, Your a good man.
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prayers sent from here, hoping for improvement on Ken's behalf, and also thanks for his friends giving aid.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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The various tests have revealed nothing specific. Ken was significnatly dehydrated and IV fluids have him feeling better. Ken is now back at home and resting. I will be checking with/on him again in the morning. Rick Sharp from up this way has been very helpful with transport in this situation. More later as I come to know it. Paul, Your a good man. Concur. Thank you.
"A Republic, if you can keep it." ~ B. Franklin
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The various tests have revealed nothing specific. Ken was significantly dehydrated and IV fluids have him feeling better. Ken is now back at home and resting. I will be checking with/on him again in the morning. Rick Sharp from up this way has been very helpful with transport in this situation. More later as I come to know it. Dehydration is a common cause of seniors falling, letting their body fluid and electrolytes get too low, and don't realize it... We as a group really need to consider pooling some of our resources and getting Ken an Emergency Response System of some sort.. Life Alert for example... there are better ones out there...phone numbers can be programmed in them to call local people along with 911...
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THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
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The various tests have revealed nothing specific. Ken was significantly dehydrated and IV fluids have him feeling better. Ken is now back at home and resting. I will be checking with/on him again in the morning. Rick Sharp from up this way has been very helpful with transport in this situation. More later as I come to know it. CAT scan of my cap-filler bone didn't flush any cats. Doc said that there's a brain (or something) in there, so apparently there was a cat (or some other kind of critter) in there at some point in the past. Stroke? Doc said that the scan didn't show any evidence of another one since The Big One in 2001. But said that a minor one couldn't be ruled out, either, given the rather obvious physical effects on the useless ol' wad. Blood pressure is pretty good (around 100/60). So is blood oxygen (90s). Still no medication indicated. (Wish that there were � don't really like feeling this bad and being told that I'm as well as I can be. Alley's Hambone said it many years ago � "I sho' hopes I'se sick. I'd hate t' feel dis bad an' be well.")
"Good enough" isn't.
Always take your responsibilities seriously but never yourself.
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