I've shot them in nature's bullseye ( the white patch under the chin ),with the old 55 grain power lok,and the 55 grain Hornady Spire point. None took a step. If memory serves me, 36 grains of H4895 was the charge. These were relaxed,feeding deer in open fields. From a good rest. No stunt shooting involved.

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