Originally Posted by hatari
Don't blow a gasket just yet. This is what I'm reading from all of this.

1.) "excluding the Wall". Doesn't mean the Wall is dead, just means they aren't dealing with it in this package.

2.) Trump tried to work with the GOP for 8 months, and could not get them to unite behind him. This leaves him 2 choices: either cut deals with the Dems to get a few votes or pull an Obama and try to continue to govern by use of Executive Orders only. Reagan had to cut deals to get things done, and looks like Trump has come to the conclusion that it is impossible to get the entire GOP to unite. That means to get some of what he wants, he's going to have to give them some of what they want.

3.) You aren't going to deport these "Dreamers" anyway. No way to round them all up and too expensive to round them up and send them back. Just make existing laws work, get rid of sanctuary cities, and deport the criminals and break up the gangs. Would it be a good political trade to exchange this Dreamer thing that will never be acted upon to regain some sanity in enforcing our current laws? To get the Dems to back some sort of tax reform, is it a good political move? Is it a good political move to end the Dems pattern of complete resistance and obstruction? Would that give Trump the opportunity to come back and tell America "I'm working with these people" and can he use that to his political advantage? How about he idea that he can turn to the base and say "I tried to work with these RHINOS for 8 months and they wouldn't back me. Get me some new faces to work with"

Let's be honest, there is a cost associated with any political move. Trump is coming out of Harvey and Irma looking good. Bush got castrated over the Katrina response and that hurt him more than the anti war stuff. Trump actually looks better after jumping on aid for storm victims. Now he's coming out and threw DACA back at Congress and tells them to fix their mess. It's a huge bargaining chip. Trump tells Pelosi and Schumer that if they want to avoid the GOP killing DACA altogether, then they need to play ball with Trump. Take a good look, they are willing to play ball with Trump to some degree. The Art of the Deal, MAGA all unfolding for those who want to see it.

No, this is not the sweeping overhaul of Clinton - Obama socialist policies, but those two had 16 YEARS to have their people work the Leftist agenda. Trump has had 8 MONTHS. This is the first crack in the wall that the Democrats put in front of Trump and his agenda. Trump is moving the needle to the Right, maybe not as far and fast as you'd like but you are getting some of what you want. HRC would be going full speed to the Left and you would be choking on Feminism, Socialism, complete Open Borders, and a world in which Iran, Russia, and the NORKS would had no hesitation in doing whatever they want. The NORKS are belligerent right now because Trump makes them nervous. They are testing him.

What you are seeing is political maneuvering. If you want to call it a "sell out" go ahead, but you are living in a fantasy world if you don't see that the GOP will not rubber stamp Trump's agenda and ram it down the Dems throat. It is not happening. If you want to say the GOP in Congress has failed you, then you have a valid point.

Suddenly, Ryan and McConnell don't hold all the power in Congress. What if Trump has to throw Schumer a bone to get 6-7 Dems to go with him. What if he has to deal with Pelosi to get 20 Dems in the House to paly ball? That is egg on the face of Ryan or McConnell and pours water on the MSM hate Trump frenzy.

Shrewd politics? Practical politics? Realistic politics? The Art of the Deal.



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Schumer, Pelosi say they have deal with Trump to protect 'Dreamers'
Published September 13, 2017
Fox News

President Trump praises bipartisanship, urges unity

Democratic congressional leaders emerged from a meeting with President Donald Trump Wednesday vowing to pursue an agreement protecting immigrants who were brought illegally into the US as children from deportation.

In a joint statement, 2 Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said they and Trump had "agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, 1 excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides."

A source briefed on the meeting confirmed to Fox News that Trump and the leaders agreed to pair the DREAM Act with some measures enhancing border security. The source confirmed that those measures do not include Trump's long-promised wall across the U.S.-Mexico border.

An estimated 800,000 young immigrants are currently covered by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, which was formed by former President Barack Obama in 2012. Earlier this month, the Trump administration announced it was winding down the program over the next six months, putting pressure on Congress to pass a legislative solution.

3 The White House issued a statement describing the meeting as "constructive" and "a positive step toward the President's strong commitment to bipartisan solutions for the issues most important to all Americans." The statement added that the three had discussed "policy and legislative priorities," including "tax reform, border security, DACA, infrastructure and trade."

The dinner date with Schumer and Pelosi came after the president stunned GOP congressional leaders by striking a deal last week with the two senior Democrats for a short-term spending and debt-ceiling deal. While GOP leaders wanted a longer-term package, the deal helped ensure immediate aid to hurricane victims while averting a government shutdown for now.

That was great, can I borrow that?

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.