Thanks Uncle Bob...I'm not going to looking for all the speed I can get either, but want at least 2600+....like a factory 250gr load, etc. I learned with my old 35 Whelen Ackley that anywhere around 2550-2600 was just awesome with the 250X. Since I've killed so much game with Barnes X,TSX and seen the TTSX used, I'm going back to cup n core for awhile.