I took my first one with a Marlin 1895 using a Speer 400 gr. & whatever the starting load of H335 is in the Marlin section of their manual. 1680 fps. I shot the yearling boar at 9 yd. through the onside shoulder and out the ribs behind the far shoulder. The exit wound was the size of an Eisenhower dollar, and all the bear did was roll down hill. Yeah, that would solve the problem, but I want to hunt with a scope and can't bring myself to scope a Marlin lever action.