Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
Originally Posted by jk16
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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
One guy bought all we had! We didn’t expect that...

More on order though. CZ is doing a run of 1000. Supposedly, they “found” 1000 actions. I’m not buying it!


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You might inform the dealer who bought all those 452s on the ladt batch(who is no doubt scaliping those guns later online) that he needs to sit the next batch out.- no more for him.

I am sure since the bastard can't scalp ARs or .22 rinfire anmo for inflated prices anymore he is now taking advantage of availability and pricing on your CZs to make a quick buck... Its probably some dickweasel like James Wayne down in TX..

Furthermore ,you should limit sales to two per customer. That should prevent a few greedy folks from cleaning you out. Even at that ,once word gets out I doubt 100 guns would last more than a week .

And before anyone protests- you did do the same thing with rimfire ammo during to the shortage.....



Well...

First and foremost, I didn’t expect anybody to purchase these in any quantity. CZ offered me all 1000 at SHOT. I told them no specifically because they came to us with a “last run” about three times now. Upon returning, I found out the new cost on the rifles. They were around $100 more than our old purchase price. I declined a large order again once I found that out. If you guys remember correctly, our old price was $369. Then they started messing with cost and things went up a tad. Now we have to price these rifles at $469 to maintain the same margin.

Limits in the store or on the phone were much easier to accomplish before the POS system or the eCommerce website. It’s doable, but the limits are managed on an order by order basis and there is a cost associated with it. We evaluate the availability of the item, then decide if the additional cost is viable to implement eCommerce limits.

In this situation, it’s not worth it. Have your dealer contact Bill Hicks (distributor). They bit on the big order. Their cost from CZ was the same as ours, so they will be a little more expensive. They may be out and/or low by now, but more are scheduled to ship within 30 days.



I understand Derrick..

CZ could have avoided all of the drama over the last 6 or 7 years if they had simply NOT replaced the m452 with the m455 but continued to make runs of both models.

I think that world wide, the m455 has not been recieved as well as they thought it would be.. I know the Australians were pissed about the discontinuance of the m452. Also, most US shooters do not need or want an interchangeable barrel system bolt gun and loved the quality and performance of the old m452.

If CZ had learned a bit from Winchester's mistake in 1964 ,they would not have announced the discontuance of the m452.

From what I have seen there were several "last goodbye" commemorate versions of the CZ m452 now on the world market . In the USA -they are marked "Grande Finale". In Canada ,they are marked "Farewell"..It could be CZ made a run of say 5,000 or more m452 .22LR actions a few tears ago for those commemoratives and at $1,000 they simply have not sold well . Maybe the entire runs have not been conpleted....It could be they have actions left over due to poor sales of those planned runs?

All I know as a buyer at this point in time, CZ looks like "the boy crying wolf " with all of this " last of the m452s - no really" nonsense.

I think in typical corporate fashion ,they made a mistake dropping the m452 and just cannot admit it to themselves.


Last edited by jk16; 03/01/18.