Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by fuzzytail
Using R22 64 grains and 140 grain BT in Nosler brass and WLR primer at 3390 from 26" tube. Hart Barrel


Interesting...a 280AI juggernauting 140's at STW and Mashburn velocities;and from the same length barrel that Nosler says gives,at best,100 fps less velocity.

And people wonder why I think 280AI users are the biggest wishful thinkers on the planet,and greatest purveyors of dis-informatiion.

Any fool can keep adding a double based propellant like R22 until the chronograph screams,just to make a cartridge look good.

That's as humerous as quoting Quick Loads as evidence of pressure in your rifle....another joke of the uninitiated. smirk



I use Quickload and a Labradar to develop loads. The QL program does indicate pressure , is this indication spot on......I doubt it, but it is not too far off either.

With accurate recorded velocities and correct inputs to the program you can find a node in as little as 5 shots (this is to establish burn rate of your particular lot of powder) then another 5 for a tiny group. Quick load needs to be studied and all inputs need to be accurate.

My 280ai runs on a node with a 162 ELD-X at around 2800ft/s, indicated pressure is around 60K, five shot groups at 100 yards are inside 1/2 inch.

Velocity is the result of the correct powder for application within excepted pressure and on a node.........velocity is of little concern but accuracy is.