Bighorn: I called FA and they were real helpful. It appears they DID ship quite a few guns with the Pachmayr which I too, don't care for. Apparently, its an "issue" to have wood (or ivory grips) installed as according to them, they must be individually fitted. I did find a website that says to make a trace of the existing grips and send them so they can in turn make their grips fit. If you know another (or better) route to go, it will be appreciated. J
