Thanks for that MD! I’m looking at Graf’s website (I’ll be looking at others too) and trying to determine what if any dies to order.
For instance, I have several hunting rifles (all 700’s or 721’s) that 1/2 MOA or less is possible with selected loads. But to do that the brass is hand picked/worked over and careful reloading. I’m using mostly RCBS standard dies and the brass is plain old Remington or Winchester brass.
Shooting at long range is the basic reason for wanting to improve accuracy. But a slight varying breeze can screw up accuracy and I wonder will reducing group size .1 to .2 MOA be worth ~$60 per cartridge???

What I mainly gather from your comments is concentricity is the bottom line (the straight line if you will) therefore just buying/using a benchrest seating die may not improve the accuracy and the sizing die (besides the case prep) is similarly important as the seating die.

I have several PD rifles, the one cartridge I use most for PD has been 223. (Subject to change to 204 Ruger).
Therefore, before I dump $1,000+ in replacing dies, I think I’ll start with one set of 223 dies or perhaps 204 dies and do some or a lot of testing.

It’s unbelievable that we have on-line access to someone with your experience and expertise. Thanks again.


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