We are not talking about the first shot. Its cycling of the action for repeat shots. Lever actions. So after you have
emptied your bear spray, and failed to listen to your Alaskan guide on your Mountain bikes: suddenly
MS. Grizz with 2 cubs is on you like last month's bounced rent check. And you NEVER have hunted in Alaska?

We are not acquiring sights-you should have already DONE that. Suggest you read Rifle and Handloader old issues with Phil Shoemaker's comments.
Originally Posted by pete53
and let`s not forget how accurate and fast a AR-10 with a scope shoots too ? Black heart is correct !


Please.

So, until you have handled a pre-war Model 71 in 450 Alaskan, or hunted grizzlies in the alders-stay safe at the range.
Its not an accident that guides in AK have LARGE BORE rifles that work on the 1886-M-95 principle. It takes more than just ONE well aimed shot, you have to STOP a grizzly
OR, the grizzly may eventually die, but you will not be alive to see where he went. Multiple shots may be required.

Do you have a grizzly mount-shot in AK- above your desk in your outdoor library room? I do. Thank you.
Are you a combat veteran-in REAL combat? Bad information on some of these sites can get uninformed people mauled and killed.
Like Julie H. one of the two gals drug out of sleeping bags In Glacier National Park. (1967)

Get real and get informed. Those Canadian/Alaskan tests were real, conducted by real hunters and real guides.


"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena-not the critic"-T. Roosevelt
There are no atheists in fox holes or in the open doors of a para's aircraft.....