but don't you think its better to shoot 5 rifles at 50 yards one shot at a time until it gets near the center and then one more round to confirm, then go on to the next one? You get more done this way! Now you have 5 rifles that are dead on instead of wasting 10 cartridges on one gun!!! Blue your preaching to the choir, people who know a lot about something that they know nothing about take offense easily so mostly I keep my mouth shut when shooting with experts, and shoot 10 rounds.