Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
I believe and I could be wrong it's been a while but when he was using S60V I believe he was getting 62.


Phil's earliest 440V was to 57ish. After he built his new ovens he pushed the crap out of it and was able to kiss 60ish. I was working with it hard at the time as were lots of heat treat nuts. I could hit 60, but it was WAY too brittle. When Spyderco picked it up they found the same. I spent a lot of time talking to Sal, Phil and others and EVERYONE was convinced the sweet spot was 57ish.

Then...Crucible introduced 420V (S90V) and it became a moot point...


You can no more tell someone how to do something you've never done, than you can come back from somewhere you've never been...