It was a problem with those little deer as a doe "might" be 7-9" wide. Not much time for a bullet to do a lot of damage. I had loaded him the Speer 130BT too and told him that "they" were the ones to use in Texas. I told him the Hornady would be better on mule deer, etc. Well, he took the speer because his rifle "shot them better" he told me. Well goof, I did the workup in his rifle...three shot groups, the Speer could be covered with a dime....the Hornady could be covered with a nickel! And he is shooting at less than 100yds, ha. At least they both shot to POA in his Browning.