I got a horde of those 180 SSP hornadys as well as a ton of remington 150 grain, intended for 35 remington. Got all excited when the legend was announced. I am 35 caliber nut. i have been wanting a 35 caliber AR but not bad enough to spend the money on custom. Thought I was all set with the legend of course Winchester f'ed it up. This was definitely a cartridge designed by engineers and bean counters.Hornady should do this cartridge right.