Thanks Rick. I have been shooting 16s since I was a kid using my grandfathers Long Tom. Later I rescued an Ithaca 37 in 16 gauge from a pawn shop. When searching for quality 16 gauge ammo, I was disappointed with the quality of the cheap promo loads and by the price of the high end stuff, so I traded for a cheap Lee Load All II in 16 gauge. Now I reload a box or so every year for rabbits and varmints using components I have on hand from loading 20 gauge ammo, except for cases and wads of course. My hand loads using magnum shot outperform the cheap stuff by far and cost no more extra than a little time above the cost of the Wally World cheapies that cannot be counted on to be in stock.