Wellnyou are handicapping yourself off the bat with the idea those 2 powders can do it. On page 197 of Lyman 2rd addn Shotshell handbook there is a 700x load for 1 oz in a hull and using a wad you can't buy anymore ( both) . Start a hunt for newer manuals
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" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "