Also, until you've hunted bulls in western Wa, coast range of Oregon, or the Idaho panhandle, where it a elk makes 100 yards, he's gone forever, it's a whole different game, as guys who've killed bulls there can attest.... Most other states I'd use about anything, and have, but it's a whole different game in said locales.. As said before, 338 was MADE for killing elk...


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