John i might be one of the few that liked the Barnes before they put the groves on.

In the 35 Whelen,7x57 and that darn 270 Win,i never had a problem with hitting the critter.

Only found one in a deer it came from the 7x57.About 125 yards and it turned up in the right rear leg.
It traveled there under or in side the deer as no holes were in that hide where the bullet was found.

I still have a few boxes left as well as some 75 grain 257 bullets.