Stanford University’s Hoover Institution’s podcast Uncommon Knowledge with an epidemiologist & economist:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uncommon-knowledge/id1378389941#episodeGuid=uncommonknowledgehoover.podbean.com%2F80eac8c2-fbdc-50f3-af87-f42168df5672

Same guy linked in OP but without the Jewish interviewer which is such a problem for some here.