Interesting thoughts on the berries.....and we have had miserable wet springs here in Pa for the last 5 years or so...

Re: Pines:

Agree on the snow being probably the best winter roosting spot....Problem is it rarely gest deep enough here in Pa. and when it does it takes a determined hunter to bust thru shin to knee high snow for any length of time, combined with our hills....Have done it a few times and when they came up out of the snow on a sunny day, it was almost magical....Back in the late 70's and 80's when we thought we could never kill all of our Grouse, there were more than a few covers that had thick stands of close together young pines.....Perhaps 5-7 feet high and packed tight against each other....Work the edges of them with a flusher going inside and it bordered on not being fair...the numbers of Birds that often came out of them in the second season could get crazy.....

Same with old strip mine high walls with low thick young wild grape vines....So thick that sometimes they had a hard time getting out....You heard the thrashing of wings and stood there waiting for them to clear....

As you said, different locations ....

Last edited by battue; 05/16/20.

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