Hardin never "touted" the Hornet, So you're just a liar. What he said was that the Hornet sufficed, so the shorty 223, having 50% more energy and range than the Hornet, and 5x as fast a repeat hit, was adequate and guys were foolish to insist upon a 308 as a shtf gun. It's more important to have the option of the .22lr conversion unit, for practice, for handiness with a suppressor mounted and to have the 60 gr Aquila subsonic 22 ammo for removal of scouts, sentries, guard dogs, and for taking of small game.
Carmichael was shooting editor of OutDoor Life Magazine for 20 years. He held several records in both benchrest and NRA bullseye (position) rifle. He also took several record heads of game in N. America and Africa. He said what we need is general -ability MEN ,not general-ability rifle-calibers.
And a wheelbarrow.....don't forget the wheelbarrow.
