yep, and me, baiting moose, elk, bears to a tree blind, can brain them with a shorty AR in 223, too. Just gotta know to aim 1" high 20m. and 3" high at 10m, if using the carrying handle sights. and typical zero for the sight. I'd much rather have to brain a grizzly with a shorty AR than have to fight with ANY bolt action or shotgun.
