Buddy of mine has a Mesa in 6.5 Creed. It impresses the heck out of me. I've also done some reloading for him 'cause I'm retired and he's not. He's always buying rifles; has one ordered from Seekins right now. So he sells a lot of stuff to make room in the safe. I'm waiting for the Mesa to go up for sale, ( It's only a matter of time). I already know the gun, have shot it, and know what loads it likes.