Unfortunately, the dilemma is one facing us all. The leftists have their minds made up, and, even with proof, will not change their opinions and minds. The figure of having to kill/eliminate 50 million makes me sad, but our side will have to look at the same figure from the other way. We could win every election from here till the cows come home, and the leftists will not change their mind, nor listen to reason. I think we are in for a major upheaval within the next few years. I'm old enough that I will probably not see it, but my family will. Fortunately, the worst I can say about my brother, is that he thinks his 6.5 Creed is better than my 6.5x55. I can live with that.