As stated you need more throttle. Anything under 3,900fps is pointless.
Good hits will put them down instantly.
I use the same powder charge with the 20gr. V-max and found them fine for fox and great for p-dogs and gophers.
Thank you for your input...I havent driven the 20 Vmax very hard...but I cant see where it wouldn't work well on the hides of little critters.
It's really worthless on dogs.
And if you stand on them too hard they will make soup out of a fox.
Still, a very serviceable bullet for some .17 Rem applications. And they have always shot just as tight as the 25's IME.
