Like said the Hornady 25gr HP is not even close to the rem 25gr HP. I never liked the 25 gr rem bullet because it was so short, it worked fine it's just i liked the Hornady HP better. I like the 25gr Hornady v-max best of all since they came out yrs ago. But the Hornady 25HP is still around also. I drive these as fast as my 24" barrel will go, over 4100fps with cfe 223. If you put one in the rib cage of a coyote he won't be running off to join his mates.
