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The 25-45 Sharps is an interesting cartridge as well.

The younger generation who are looking for a deer cartridge, good to 300 yd, don't care for Granddad's old 30-30, but they might be interested in what US shooters use in their ARs. 6x45mm, 25-45 Sharps, 6.5 Grendel. Just for fun, I crunched some recoil and velocity numbers for the 6.5 Grendel and the 30-30. Perhaps develop a load for their AR that can do double duty in a bolt or SS rifle.

I have shot all these loads from either my Contender, Encore or lever. The yardage, after the bullet weight, indicates how far from the muzzle the bullet gets with less than one inch of drop and retains over 1000 ft/lb of energy.

The difference between 8 and 13 ft/lb of recoil isn't important I don't think, but the reach of the cartridges is. I think if I was looking for a 300 yd or less deer cartridge, I would be tempted to check out the Grendel.

Some food for thought.


6.5 Grendel - 2600 fps MV - - 123 SST - 250 yd - less than an inch of drop - 1000+ ft/lb -- 8 ft/lb recoil

30-30 - 2450 fps MV - 150 Hornady RN - 160 yd - less than an inch of drop - 1000+ ft/lb -- 13 ft/lb recoil

30-30 - 2580 fps MV - 125 Hornady SST - 175 yd - less than an inch of drop - 1000+ ft/lb -- 8.5 ft/lb recoil
30-30 - 2300 fps MV - 150 Hornady SST - 175 yd - less than an inch of drop - 1000+ ft/lb --11 ft/lb recoil