Originally Posted by NYNY
Ok, Ithaca is still FAR lighter, ejects out bottom and will run forever.


Well, yea it does. And Remington wised up after the Model 17, made the 31 and then 870 side ejects. I’d pay extra not to have bottom eject. As to lighter, you are right there too. Except I am among the no doubt challenged crowd whose shooting goes to hell as gun weight approaches six pounds. The 16 gauge Model 12 is nigh into perfect in that and most other regards.